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    First cycle... Please give me input

    Im limited on what i can get but how does this sound as a cycle
    weeks 1-8 test prop. @ 100 mg/eod
    weeks 6-10 deca 200 @ 200 mg/ed
    weeks 9-1o pct with nolvadex @ 100mg/ed
    weeks 10-13 pct with nolvadex @ 50mg/ed

    is this a safe way to get significant gains in stregth/size with reducing the chances of gyno and bad sides???

    IF I START TO HAVE GYNO SIDES DURING CYCLE WHAT SHOULD I DO? OR IS THERE ANYTHING I SHOULD RUN AS A PRECAUTION DURING MY CYCLE?

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    dont even bother with deca if thats how you plan to use it..

    with the way you have it laid out your pct start time is way off..
    nolvadex dose is off too

    age/stats/years training/cycle history

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    Quote Originally Posted by mammon View Post
    dont even bother with deca if thats how you plan to use it..

    With the way you have it laid out your pct start time is way off..
    Nolvadex dose is off too

    age/stats/years training/cycle history
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    6 ft and 195 lbs
    4-5 years training (military traning, gym, running) but had almost a year of no training up untill about 8 months ago
    no cycle history

    im on a high protein, 3-4 meals a day with 1 protein shake a day
    i do snack alot... Cookies, candys... Ect...
    Im on a 3 on 1 off workout schedule
    day1 = upper 1.5 hr
    day2 = cardio/endurance 1 hr
    day3 = lower body 1.5 hr
    day4= rest/relaxation

    in the end, i will make the disision on what and how much to take and when to take it... But if 10 people comment and give me ideas or how theyed do it, the i can tweak where nesacary!!!

    Thanks to everyone who gives feedback!!!

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    Terrible cycle layout !

    never run deca past your test.

    the 1-8 of test prop is OK, but the deca is NOT how you should run deca!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-mos View Post
    terrible cycle layout !

    Never run deca past your test.

    The 1-8 of test prop is ok, but the deca is not how you should run deca!
    ok, thank you for the input!!

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    are you sure your ready for prop and the ed/eod injections.. can be tough for someone not use to it. may consider a longer ester..

    8-10 weeks of prop or 10-12 weeks with a long ester would be a place to start.
    Last edited by Mammon; 03-21-2009 at 08:09 PM.

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    Deca not for 1st cycle.

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    deca has a very long ester that lingers and prop leaves the system very quickly. you should always have test present if deca is present, so if you ran 10 weeks of deca I would run 14 weeks of prop so the prop doesn't play out before the deca. not many people are up for 14 weeks of ed or eod injects, making a long ester test a more desireable choice for many. if you want to stick with prop then npp is a better match. I agree though that test only is best for a first cycle.

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    Definately either get a longer esther test to run with your deca or drop the deca all together and run the test prop. You really shouldn't run it the way you have it laid out tho...... not a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mammon;4514***
    are you sure your ready for prop and the ed/eod injections.. Can be tough for someone not use to it. May consider a longer ester..

    8-10 weeks of prop or 10-12 weeks with a long ester would be a place to start.
    the only reason i went with prop is that with my mediocre diet i didnt want to bloat too bad

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    well first things first.. diet needs to be in check before you start anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    deca has a very long ester that lingers and prop leaves the system very quickly. you should always have test present if deca is present, so if you ran 10 weeks of deca I would run 14 weeks of prop so the prop doesn't play out before the deca. not many people are up for 14 weeks of ed or eod injects, making a long ester test a more desireable choice for many. if you want to stick with prop then npp is a better match. I agree though that test only is best for a first cycle.
    i fcuking love injecting ed....

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    Just a heads up bro, listen to these guys, I want to do a first cycle and they pointed me to the educational threads, hell ive learned so much there I feel like I have already done a couple of cycles, especially read the one about test-e and deca and ur pct. Tons of great info and i know i will be doing it right and protecting myself for the future

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