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    Ok guys I started a big argument with a trainer, last time I was on I asked you guys what you thought because a guy told me to take tes 1cc once a week and then 2cc twice a week and finish up with 1cc for the last week. Some of your replies was that I shouldn't do it. then he said take the tes for 8 weeks then start decca for 6 weeks. Now he really is tripping and I need your help because now he's telling me to tak 3 shots a week 1 cc every other day for two weeks and then 1 cc twice a week for two weeks and then 1cc for 2 weeks. This is totally against some of the recomindations I have rerad here. I am already 250lbs strong as hell but extremely bloated, what should I really do. I have not read any thing that suggest going his route is healthy at all I almost believe he is trying to simply make money. He even states don't worry about novadex. What do you guys think...

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    I think I don't understand why you are still talking to this guy. I try to avoid stupid people, but that's just me...

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    yeah hes an idiot..

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    Actually it appears you guys know much more it one of those situations were he keeps coming to me trying to give advise. I don't know my body fat but I also do won't to hurt myself either. I have taken 8 weeks of tes already and one week of decca. I don't know if I should just stop wait a while and start again. I really need help I have done research but at times it is confusing information that's why I read some of these post and try to see if anyone else is like me...

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    it appears that we know much more?

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    forget the deca.. drop it.

    how about pct? suppose he didnt mention that either

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    actually he said I didn't need it with all of his years of expirence it was my foirst time and their was no need for it...
    I got some any way from some one else to be on the safe side.. So I looked at the web site that Big gave me and I should start it at the end of the cycle. I have novadex but I can try to hunt down AI as well.

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    Stop what you are doing right now. Your trainer is a fukin idiot and doesn't know his head from his ass.

    Test for 8 weeks and then 1 week of Deca, wtf is that going to do? Are you stopping the test now and continuing with Deca? You need to put this a bit more simple, but yeah..

    What kind of Test is it?

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    the tes is glyneka 250. and yes I am looking for a different trainer that's what Big said get rid of him...

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    yeah dude, your trainer is a dumb shit no joke. Drop him ASAP. Sounds like you are pretty much done if you started Deca already. Quit everything run PCT take a few months off and redo cycle. You do not want to stop, do pct, then start up again or continue for obvious reasons of ****ing yourself up. this is pretty serious stuff bro. in the future make sure to do all your research before you hop into anything. cross reference like a mo****a

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    OK, I have done the 8 weeks of tes and mix is one week of decca. Now I should stop take the nova for 8 weeks and start up again in 8 to twelve weeks. but how do I start do I mix the decca with the tes 1cc of each for 8 to 12 weeks or just the tes. every where I read they state that the tes is a builder and the decca is a hardner and can be used together. I have gotten feed back that this can be done what are some of you guys thoughts.

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    do you even have a pct planned?

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    All I have is the novadex, I was told by someone else to take this for 2 full months when I finish the tes cycle..

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinn View Post
    All I have is the novadex, I was told by someone else to take this for 2 full months when I finish the tes cycle..
    You will need to add clomid and it should run for four weeks along side the clomid..

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    As a PCT take the Novadex for two months and the clomid along side for 4 weeks. I git it.
    But how do I start a new cycle

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    no no... nolvadex 4 weeks as well.

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    once pct is over.. its time on time off (including the pct)
    get bloodwork done if possible to make sure things are back in check

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    Thanks for the great advise one 4 weeks novadex and clomid. Then blood work I can get that done no problem. Now how long after should I wait to try again and what should it be based on?

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    hey guys,
    I'm new to this forum but i am prominent on another forum. I am amazed by what this trainer has said to you. If I were you i would go into his gym, pick up a 15lb dumbell and crack him upside his head. He is a total moron for giving you advice that is so terrible. I have a question for you though. What ester test are you using? Test Enth, cyp, prop, or susp? I would stop what you are doing immediatly. Research on your own more before you put anything into your body. Take tamoxifen (nolva) for 2 weeks at 20mg ED and stop your injections. If I were you, since this is your first cycle, I would get your hands on Test E. And since you have some Deca get some more. You should run a cycle that looks like this.
    Test E 1-12wks 500mg week. split into 2 shots of 250mg taken monday and thursday.
    Deca 1-10 wks 400mg week. Split into 2 shots of 200mg taken monday and thursday.
    Take the nolva if you feel itchy, sore, or flaring nipples.
    PCT- 3 weeks after last inject take Clomid as follows:
    Day 1-300mg
    Days 2-7 100mg
    Days 8-14 50mg
    Nolva taken 40/40/20/20
    Hope this helps you bro. Good luck to you and knock that trainer to the floor hahaha

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    Oh and I want to apologize for the cycle I wrote up for you. It was really late and I want to add something for you. Since Test E takes about 4 or 6 weeks to kick in and feel it I would use an oral kickstart. I would recommend using d-bol at 40 or 50mg everyday. So your cycle should look like this.
    D-Bol- 40 or 50mg ED weeks 1-6
    Test E- 500mg/wk weeks 1-12
    Deca- 400mg/wk weeks 1-10
    Then follow the PCT I wrote up above. Your diet is the most important part of your cycle. If your diet isn't in check then you won't get good gains and your cycle will be a waste. Take your PCT very seriously. It is just as important if not more than your actual cycle. You don't want to screw your body up i.e. get bitch tits, **** up your natural test levels. I guarantee that if your diet is in check, you bust your ass in the gym, give yourself proper recovery time and dont overtrain, follow this cycle and PCT like a religion and you will be more than happy with your results. Good luck to you and kick that trainers ass. haha

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    Last edited by musclehead1983; 03-23-2009 at 07:23 PM.

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    Thanks alot I am going to research all and get my hands on it.

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