Help, I don't know what I need

[LyricaBuzz]

Ok, I am a 19 year old college student who is looking for slights mass building with exceptional cutting. I am 5' 10", 160 pound male. I was thinking about winstrol, but someone told me that if I took this I would also need a testonerone booster with it. I want good advice before ordering anything. what steroids are good for the results I want and what should be done with it for maximum results. help

[Spartan ^]

Here's all the help you need:

NO AAS! You are too young! PERIOD. Get your diet right and hit the gym hard, and you can gain naturally. I speak from experience. I was 5-10" 140 and got to 187 with no AAS.

[Mammon]

at this point proper diet and training

[LyricaBuzz]

If I wanted proper diet and exercise I would ask the neighboring earthfare. I am getting a steriod of some kind regardless, you guys can either give me usefull info about which one to get or keep giving me advice that I probably already knew

[domeyeahaigh]

5'10 160???? Come on bro...eat your ass off and watch the gains go through the roof. I was 5'5 185 when I first cycled...that was natural.

[LyricaBuzz]

5'10 160???? Come on bro...eat your ass off and watch the gains go through the roof. I was 5'5 185 when I first cycled...that was natural.

once again, I know all of this. I want results fast, you guys aren't helping lol

[domeyeahaigh]

Yes but we are trying to help you man, If you HAD the proper diet and exercise your would be bigger, so if you take AAS you are not going to gain shit. Except when you get laughed at by the next girl you try to bone cause you wont have any natural test production.

[LyricaBuzz]

Yes but we are trying to help you man, If you HAD the proper diet and exercise your would be bigger, so if you take AAS you are not going to gain shit. Except when you get laughed at by the next girl you try to bone cause you wont have any natural test production.

ok, all of this aside......WHICH STERIOD WOULD BE MOST EFFECTIVE WITH THE STATS THAT i GAVE?????????????????????

[Mammon]

nothing... im out.

peace

[LyricaBuzz]

nothing... Im out.

Peace

yes but we are trying to help you man, if you had the proper diet and exercise your would be bigger, so if you take aas you are not going to gain shit. Except when you get laughed at by the next girl you try to bone cause you wont have any natural test production.

here's all the help you need:

No aas! You are too young! Period. Get your diet right and hit the gym hard, and you can gain naturally. I speak from experience. I was 5-10" 140 and got to 187 with no aas.

thanks guys...alot of help

[Big]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

[LyricaBuzz]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

wow what douches, I thought this was a forum about steriods not a bunch of random useless info.....still waiting on that magical answer

[Mammon]

there is no majic pill..
just how much research have you done?
you know anything about basic beginner cycles, anti-e's pct?
not going to spoon feed your ass..
come with something.. have a plan, lay it out.. then possibly we would take a look.
still think your to young.. now i think your lazy too.. want the quick fix.. there is no such thing as a quick fix.

[LyricaBuzz]

there is no majic pill..
just how much research have you done?
you know anything about basic beginner cycles, anti-e's pct?
not going to spoon feed your ass..
come with something.. have a plan, lay it out.. then possibly we would take a look.
still think your to young.. now i think your lazy too.. want the quick fix.. there is no such thing as a quick fix.

I am not looking for a quick answer, I just want help....I know that winstrol causes strength increases without excess weight-gain. Promotes increases in vascularity, and will not convert to estrogen. Does not cause excess water retention and may have a diuretic effect on the body. What I really want to know is should I start with a cutting steriod and then move to a bulking steriod like Dbol or the other way around. I have a little pudge on my stomach but nothing bad at all. I wanna be cut with a fair amount amount of bulk..

[Mammon]

winny can reak havoc on your joints.. better options if your going oral only.

[Mammon]

for shits and grins.. think you could lay out your diet.. a daily list of meals..

[LyricaBuzz]

for shits and grins.. think you could lay out your diet.. a daily list of meals..

ok, subway, taco bell, krystals, burger king, and mcdonalds.....thats my diet.... can winstrol be taken at the same time as d bol, and is this a good idea?

[Mammon]

no not a good idea...


why are you such a smart ass when it comes to questions on your diet.its important.you know, there are people here that would be willing to tweak your diet for you.. that would help greatly im sure.. to bad you arent willing to take any advice on that matter.

[LyricaBuzz]

no not a good idea...


why are you such a smart ass when it comes to questions on your diet.its important.you know, there are people here that would be willing to tweak your diet for you.. that would help greatly im sure.. to bad you arent willing to take any advice on that matter.

I'm not being a smartass, I am just saying that is my diest... I told you that I am a college student, what do u think college kids eat??? I really don't know where to even start with a a diet or if I can afford it

[Big]

your attitude sucks as bad as your diet, if you don't change both drastically you will always be small and pudgy.

Next?

[Immortal Soldier]

Wait you want to CUT at 5'10 160lbs?

Unless you are a pudgy 160lbs you need food, because I think you must be a twig.

[Big]

Wait you want to CUT at 5'10 160lbs?

Unless you are a pudgy 160lbs you need food, because I think you must be a twig.

he said in post 14 he has a little pudge on the stomach

[Immortal Soldier]

he said in post 14 he has a little pudge on the stomach

Pudge at 160lbs at 5'10 = an average person who has just started working out.

This kid gives college students such a bad name....actually nevermind I know alot of retarded college students who I always have to educate on cycling because they are like "broooo I am doing deca only, gonna get huge" and I am like "Uhhh thats not good you should" "No no bro trust me I know what I am doing"

Then I am like "WTF THEN WHY DID YOU STOP ME IN THE GYM TO ASK FOR MY ADVICE!??!"

[romo6]

Man this is great!

[daniel202]

just take anna and watch your cholesterol. dont be a total idiot and mix 2 orals together.

either way, at 19 using this stuff is pointless.

[lord henry]

wow what a tool this guy is ,now listen here young boy the guys here are trying to save your skin and your acting like a total ass hole ,pull your head from out your ass and listen to what there saying.

you go ahead and do winny or dbol cycle and i shit you not 4 weeks after you have finished you will be back to were you are now maybe with depresion ,no sex drive ,no engey ,everything that makes you a man (boy in your case) will be gone (test)

[Akrobatik]

ok, subway, taco bell, krystals, burger king, and mcdonalds.....thats my diet.... can winstrol be taken at the same time as d bol, and is this a good idea?

Your going to have one hell of a heart attack.

[Spartan ^]

Here we go again. Some dumbass college punk making the rest of us newbs look like mindless ****in idiots. Thanks man! Hell, with a name like lyrical buzz, what should I have expected.

Seriously, you need to do some serious research and not dive in to AAS thinking that you are gonna get big and look great before summer. You HAVE to put in the work. I am not a genius by any means but I take the senior guys responses serious. They have been there and KNOW.

If dumbass advice about AAS is what you are looking for or if you are wanting someone to tell you what you want to hear, ASk the damn guy behind the counter at Taco Bell, Krystals, or McDonalds.

Again, thanx for making the newbs live up to their name....ASSHOLE.

[UncleTim]

I'm not being a smartass, I am just saying that is my diest... I told you that I am a college student, what do u think college kids eat??? I really don't know where to even start with a a diet or if I can afford it

Your eating all that fast food and don't think you can afford a decent diet?? Diet is 99% of working out.

[UncleTim]

And if your looking for a place to start with your diet, this would be that ****ing place.

[musclehead1983]

This thread is hilarious. This kid obviously doesn't need anyones help. He knows everything. Let him put whatever he wants in his body. he probably has a boner for a certain girl but she won't look twice at him because he is a twig with mcdonalds mustard stains on his shirts. Your on the right track to get huge man. Your gonna be supersized! dumbass

[kenny280]

Here we go again. Some dumbass college punk making the rest of us newbs look like mindless ****in idiots. Thanks man! Hell, with a name like lyrical buzz, what should I have expected.

Seriously, you need to do some serious research and not dive in to AAS thinking that you are gonna get big and look great before summer. You HAVE to put in the work. I am not a genius by any means but I take the senior guys responses serious. They have been there and KNOW.

If dumbass advice about AAS is what you are looking for or if you are wanting someone to tell you what you want to hear, ASk the damn guy behind the counter at Taco Bell, Krystals, or McDonalds.

Again, thanx for making the newbs live up to their name....ASSHOLE.

^^^^^X2
when you ask for advice use it, raither its what you wanna hear or not. as said above these guys r taking time out of there lives to keep yours going in a positive direction.

[T-MOS]

I stayed out of this til now, but oh geeez

Do you realize that you have more than enough hormones running through you right now that you could make HUGE gains if you took your diet seriously???

Do you realize that if you can't grow NOW with what you are eating, you will NOT gain much or burn much fat and you WILL lose everything after you are done??

So you want to SHUT DOWN your natural production of Testosterone and risk it not coming back up after you are done.

Do you like having erection? Do you want to risk losing them?
Do you like playing with women's breasts? Do you really want to be playing with your own man boobies because you don't have a clue what you are doing and just willing to take anything cause you think its a magic pill??

You are gonna do what you are gonna do, but DO NOT come on HERE and give US attitude for trying to SAVE your ass from hurting yourself

We don't get paid to do this, we are NOT trying to tell you never to do steroids, but you are playing with the chemical make up of the one and ONLY body you have and it seems like you don't care you could be screwing it up for life

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT

[Darksyde]

wow what douches, I thought this was a forum about steriods not a bunch of random useless info.....still waiting on that magical answer

[Mammon]

he can go over to bb.com and the kids there will tell him what he wants to hear..
the blind leading the blind...

[lovbyts]

Why wont anyone help this poor kid???
Take some suppositories (any type) and shove them up you a$$ you will get the same results at this point and any steroid you will find.

You asked for help. Everyone tried to give you help but you don't want to listen. Steroids will not help at this point no matter what you have heard, they will only hurt. 10 years from now when you need a new liver you will say why didn't I listen, when you have arthritis due because your growth plates got screwed up or various other problems. Sure there are kids who have taken them and get big but they will be paying for it soon.
yes people here take it but we take it serious, do the research, know the risks and learn how to limit them.
Are you going to get your blood work done every 3 months? If you wont read and figure out your diet then you wont benefit. Read for about another 6 years in the mean time learn to eat right, exercise and you will have near the same size results and 100% better health results for long term.

[Immortal Soldier]

he can go over to bb.com and the kids there will tell him what he wants to hear..
the blind leading the blind...

Actually bb.com are pretty strict as well, they take PH's for people under 21 years old as seriously as we do steroids (I know I use to post there).

As for their steroid forum I have no idea, but I know its a huge flame fest if you go in not knowing your stuff (well it was a year ago).

I think if they find out your below 21 you get banned from that part of the board...might be wrong.

[Mammon]

humm, havent been there for years.. use to be a playground