First cycle Questions for a light weight

[jasgti07]

Looking into my first cycle. Looking at Test E with dbol to start (4 wks) with PCT of clomid, with nolvadex on hand if needed. 33yrs age hgt 6'0" wght 142lbs (don't laugh) body fat in the 8-10 range at highest. Natural body weight floats between 135 and 140. Since summer calorie intake has been 2200-2400, past 6 mo have been around 2800-3000, with 180-210g protein daily (track it on the iphone of 3 mo now). Last 3 mo weight from 137.6 to 142.4. Is this in the right direction or eq a viable addition, liked the slower gain at the end of a quick gain? And with my smaller frame do described doses still hold true? Gym since last summer 4-5 times weekly split body parts 45-60 minutes cardio once a week for 20-25 minutes.

[xavier_888888]

Not ready for a cyclel bro. FOOD is the cycle for a lightweight.

[Big]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

[jasgti07]

Diet is at 3000 calories a day. I have worked to keep my protein up in the 180grams to 200gram range daily. For the last 6-9mo I should have seen gains near a lb a week with no avail. Carbs make up 50-60% of the intake and are whole grain pasta/bread and sweet potato's. I just got my fat intake up as that was low in the beginning. 4 meals daily, with 2 mid day meal replacements w/oatmeal or other carb and a weight gainier at night. What is the next step. Research is there gains have not been seen

[Big]

post your complete diet in the diet section for review and I promise revisions will be in order.

[Dizz28]

6' 140 is pretty skinny man. That's less then the minimum weight needed to join the Military....yes the military actually has a minimum weight

Work on it some more naturally. In due time you'll gain weight. I was about that weight but 6' 1" when I was 18 and joined the Military. Free gyms 6x a week, free chow and 2 years later I was up to 165.. another 2 years later I was 190ish, natural

[jasgti07]

Was in the army until I was 25 left boot camp at 147 and was down to 140 with in a year. (Joined at 138lbs) PCF when I left

[Immortal Soldier]

Diet is at 3000 calories a day. I have worked to keep my protein up in the 180grams to 200gram range daily. For the last 6-9mo I should have seen gains near a lb a week with no avail. Carbs make up 50-60% of the intake and are whole grain pasta/bread and sweet potato's. I just got my fat intake up as that was low in the beginning. 4 meals daily, with 2 mid day meal replacements w/oatmeal or other carb and a weight gainier at night. What is the next step. Research is there gains have not been seen

Post what you eat in a day, in detail. (or post what you had to eat today and what you will have tonight)

[jasgti07]

12 oz milk creatine bcaa and multi vitamin then gym
Breakfast 2 eggs, bowl of fiber one (1 cup) lt. multi grain english muffin glass of milk and glass of orange juice with bcaa again
at work meal replacement and 2 nutrigrain breakfast bars
lunch was small to medium chicken breast, sweet potato, and bean salad
meal replacement and 2 servings instant oat meal
small sandwich (turkey breast and cheese multigrain bread)
dinner at home was chilli on about 1/5 of a box of pasta glass of milk
before bed will be weight gainer and bcaa and creatine

[jasgti07]

calories should be around 3100 201 protein 415 carb and 95g fat

[Immortal Soldier]

calories should be around 3100 201 protein 415 carb and 95g fat

And you say you are not gaining any weight?

What is your training schedule like?

[jasgti07]

4-5 days a week depending on work, as I will work 6 days a week periodically. Gym is split body parts Chest/Back/Shoulders one day, Arms and abs, Legs and abs, and repeat the chest/back/shoulders or legs on the additional day. Will go 2 in a row for the most part and then off day. 4 exercise 3 sets per chest back shoulder and arms. Legs I generally go with squats leg press and machine extensions and curls and calf raises. What more info is neeeded?

[dynamitekid]

damn man, maybe you have a tapeworm!
that's what i eat, except with maybe 50g more protein a day and I am only 3 inches taller than you and 218 lbs

if you are eating like this and not gaining, you need to think of some other methods before looking at gear.

[c-Z]

6'0 140lbs is extremely light. And you say your 33... Your metabolism should have slowed down by then... 3000 calories may not be enough for you.

I was eating almost 5000 calories a day when I was pushing my weight on.... My weight dropped a lot.. I hit 150lbs... Said screw this. ATE AND ATE currently 5'6 170lbs. Bf% is next to nothing. Mind you i'm 22 with a fast fricking metabolism. I haven't been here long. But can guarantee there is definitely more room for growth without any steroid.

[subaruwrx04]

Was in the army until I was 25 left boot camp at 147 and was down to 140 with in a year. (Joined at 138lbs) PCF when I left

You only hit pfc when you were in.. WOW. Thats funny.. 4 years in the Marines got out as e-5 SGT.

[Immortal Soldier]

4-5 days a week depending on work, as I will work 6 days a week periodically. Gym is split body parts Chest/Back/Shoulders one day, Arms and abs, Legs and abs, and repeat the chest/back/shoulders or legs on the additional day. Will go 2 in a row for the most part and then off day. 4 exercise 3 sets per chest back shoulder and arms. Legs I generally go with squats leg press and machine extensions and curls and calf raises. What more info is neeeded?

There is your probable right there you do chest/back/shoulders all in ONE DAY, chest and back need to be done on seperate days they are major body parts.

Try this:

Monday: Chest/tri
Tuesday: Back/Bi
Wenesday: Shoulders/forearms/abs
Thursday: Legs
Friday:rest
Saturday:repeat


This is a very basic beginners workout layout


Keep your workouts between 60-90 minutes tops, up the intensity get out of there don't be like the dudes who stay there for hours thinking its good for them.

[jasgti07]

thanks for the input. I will adjust the work out pattern and give it a couple of months from there. Tape worm has already been looked at and is a negative, will have blood work done with in the next to weeks to make sure every thing else is where it should be.