Second Cycle advice

[Bennet87]

Hey guys,

friend and i shall be commencing our second cycle soon. first one looked as follows;

1-4 50mg dianabol
1-14 sust 600mg ew
1-12 deca 500mg ew

second cycle at the moment is as follows;
1-4 50mg anadrol
1-14 test e 500mg.
8-14 winstrol 50mg ed

problem is my source has run out of EQ,deca etc.. the only thing I can get is tren and i really want to add that but I play competitive rugby and it will screw me up big. I can get sust and was thinking adding another 250-500mg sust to the test e.. is this worthwhile?

thanks

[lord henry]

dont add sust to the test e it will cause unstable blood levals which ca lead to unwanted sides.

also run the winny from weeks 10-16 right upto day before pct (i dont see a pct ,i hope you have one lined up)

[T-MOS]

can we get your stats please

sust is Test with just 4 esters, NO need to add it to test, it IS test

[Bennet87]

stats:
6"0
195lbs
14% bf
training 4-5 years. very fit cardio wise.
eat healthy.

pct have lined up it will be the same as the first cycle, nolva and clomid.

only reason i was going to add sust was to just increase test but i may as well just boost the test e if i cant find another compound.
winny runs in the 2 weeks after my last jab of test e? righto

[johnnybigguns]

Age?

[WARMachine]

pct have lined up it will be the same as the first cycle, nolva and clomid.

Doses?

And agreed with T-Mos and LH.

[Bennet87]

age: 23 last month.
dosages were listed, test e 500mg each week. might bump it up to 750 and run that by itself if i cant find another compound?

[WARMachine]

age: 23 last month.
dosages were listed, test e 500mg each week. might bump it up to 750 and run that by itself if i cant find another compound?

Um no actually you didnt list your PCT doses.

And why in the hell would you bump your Test dose to 750mgs? Whats the reasoning behind that?

[Bennet87]

sorry thought you meant dosages for the other stuff.
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

bump to 750 because its the only compound im running and it would effect me more than 500mg if its by itself..

[WARMachine]

^ Thats good dose for PCT.

But what makes you think that higher doses produce more gains?

There is really no need to bump to over 600mgs EW unless youve done more than 5+ cycles, or if your diet and training suck.

If you cant gain on 500mgs a week, then you have a diet issue. Or youve done a hell of a lot of cycles.