my father is 54 he just got dumped and wants to get big agian

**D_BEAR** · 11-30-2002, 07:59 PM

what would be a good cycle for him he done some EQ back in his 30's
said worked great for him
anybody got any idea's
oh stats
he is 5'9 180lbs
15% body fat
said he want to get to 190 or 200
with 6 or 8 percent body fat
he has no medical problems
doc says he needs to lose some fat though

**D_BEAR** · 11-30-2002, 08:01 PM

oh yeah he has always worked out til he got with this woman who just left him and he stoped thats been bout 15 years ago

**Ex_banana-eater** · 11-30-2002, 08:04 PM

he should work out naturally for six months to a year, then consider steroids again later.

**D_BEAR** · 11-30-2002, 08:59 PM

kool thanx EX ill tell him to get back to liftin
you think it would be ok for him to take some clenbuterol
just askin

**ANTWAAN** · 11-30-2002, 09:10 PM

why dont you put him on a fina only cycle, then maybe he wont mind not getting any girls. sound good?

**EXCESS** · 11-30-2002, 09:29 PM

Tell him to join AR and do some research in the Over 30 Forum. Those guys will help him a lot.

**Mastiff** · 11-30-2002, 09:54 PM

I'm 51, I'd be happy to help him.

**EXCESS** · 11-30-2002, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by Mastiff
I'm 51, I'd be happy to help him.

See, what'd I tell ya?

**Madmax** · 12-01-2002, 07:02 PM

if he's 15% body fat then why did the doc tell him to loose weight?...Madmax...

**en1222** · 12-01-2002, 07:48 PM

Maybe throw some GH in his next cycle.

**nj_** · 12-01-2002, 09:46 PM

GH, reasonable dose of test (400-500mg/wk) and some EQ (400mg/wk), proper diet and training after getting back to the gym for a few months would do him good I think.

**sicilian40** · 12-01-2002, 10:08 PM

the think the first thing he should do is def come to the board and check out the over 30 forum, guys like mastiff are always willing to guide someone in the right direction and then he could work from there.

**Warrior** · 12-01-2002, 10:28 PM

At 51 with the right Test/GH treatment he could be looking and feeling great. Make him feel 30 again

Mastiff: What is a good cycle at 54? Test Enth 400mg every 10 days with Growth Hormone added to the stack?

Did you check on that article in MD last month called, "40 Years on the Juice" Bob Clapp is 66-year-old man with vitals that would compare to a 30-year-old athlete.

A typical cycle for Clapp is 500mg of Test Cyp every 3 weeks. But when he does contest he dips in much deeper. Reports using Test, GH, T3, Deca , Viagra (not for sex drive - he says he has his same old youthful drive in the bedroom. Clapp uses it in his precontest stack), ...

**D_BEAR** · 12-01-2002, 10:52 PM

WOW thanx for all the responses I will get him to come and check out the group many thanx

***LewdTenant*** · 12-02-2002, 12:49 AM

he should go see a doc since at his age he may be able to get Test/GH legally and have his insurance cover it.

and he really should lift for 6months-1 year before jumping on AS or any drugs even clen or other thermos. He should see awesome gains for restarting a workout program in that time without the AS. It really would be a waste to jump on any drugs so early and why put stress on your organs if you do not have your body in shape to handle it comfortably?

And the over 30s forum is a good idea. he should be doing his own research so he understands risk/rewards on his own. there are a lot of factors you may not think are too important at your age and at age 51 it becomes a priority. For instance at his age, i'm sure he would not want to do a winny only cycle which a 25 year old may be more comfortable with.

Lewd