thinking of adding Deca and Nolvadex to Test E Cycle....

[rksdmf]

I am in my 4th week of a Test E cycle at 500-600 mgs a week.

I only did 250 mgs the 2 weeks (wanted to see how my body would react).

I am getting a lot of water retention, gained nearly over 20 pounds in this time. I am also concidering adding deca.

If I add the deca how much should i take a week with the 500-600 mgs of Test E.

Also, should I add Nolvadex for the water retention?

Your thoughts.....

[Mammon]

already 4 weeks in wouldnt bother with the deca unless its a long ass cycle

[johnnybigguns]

What are your stats and cycle history?
Running at 250mg for 2 weeks isn't gunna tell you much since it doesn't really kick in until about 5 weeks.
I wouldn't add deca this late into the cycle.
How many weeks are you going for?

[WARMachine]

Yes, if you need to control estrogen related sides, run the Nolva throughout and into PCT.

[rksdmf]

planned on going for 14 weeks.....should i go longer if i add the deca and if so how much longer?

if i add the deca how much a week should i take with the test?


This is my 4th cycle, all others were test only....

I will be taking winstrol the last 30 days of this cycle...

cant get my hands on AI just Nolva....

[rksdmf]

thanks WarMachine : )

[johnnybigguns]

What's your age/height/weight/bf%

[rksdmf]

27
5'11''
Now 195, was 175 before cycle....
around 10% BF

[johnnybigguns]

I personally wouldn't add it in now.

[rksdmf]

I personally wouldn't add it in now.

would u mind explaining why?

[johnnybigguns]

Usually you run deca long and you have to also stop it a week before the test.

[rksdmf]

i understand that i was going to extend the cycle....

[johnnybigguns]

You shouldn't run deca and nolva together.
Run arimidex if you really want something.
I wouldl say 400-600mg would be the range you could try for deca.

[Mammon]

if your going to do it..

deca 5-15
test enanthate 1-16/17

[WARMachine]

^^ agreed with bros above

[rksdmf]

You shouldn't run deca and nolva together.
Run arimidex if you really want something.
I wouldl say 400-600mg would be the range you could try for deca.

im going to sound like a 4 year old here.......Why?

[johnnybigguns]

decas minimum dose is recommended at 2mg per lb of body weight.
deca abd nolva can possibly cause progesterone sides

[Mammon]

i truely have no issues with running nolvadex with deca or any other 19-nor if necessary..
if running it through the cycle id go with adex but if symptoms pop up id use the nolvadex

[WARMachine]

i truely have no issues with running nolvadex with deca or any other 19-nor if necessary.. (If absolutlely necessary then sure. But id prefer Adex before beginning the cycle to prevent issues.)
if running it through the cycle id go with adex but if symptoms pop up id use the nolvadex

Agreed there!^ As usual!

[rksdmf]

will the winstrol help with the water the last 30 days of the cycle?

[WARMachine]

^ Itll dry you out a little.

But upping the cardio will definitly help.

[rksdmf]

^^^ allready added 10 more laps of swimming, thats another 1000 meters

[WARMachine]

That works. ^^ Most people dont realize the cardio needed to swim for distance.

Its tough.

[rksdmf]

^^ haha ur telling me