cycle emergency help

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 03:03 PM

Have to change my cycle half way through due to gyno issues. I was running prop and tren ace at 50mg and 50 mg ed inj. I have to cut out the tren because I have to run nolvadex and from what I hear nolvadex and tren will give me some nasty progesterone sides. so what should I add to my cycle instead of tren? I dont want to run pct two months early and I dont want to run a test prop only cycle. I have 2 - 3 months left in my cycle. any ideas?
21 (I know young blah blah blah) 5th cycle
5'7"
160lbs
4.9% bf

***T-MOS*** · 03-27-2009, 03:04 PM

well , what are your goals and what do you have access to to run

SERIOUSLY ???? 5th cycle and ONLY 160 LBS?????

WOW, I am guessing you didn't ask or follow any advice given here have you???

***D7M*** · 03-27-2009, 03:06 PM

only 21, and 5th cycle? wow.

what's wrong with the prop only?

**GauchB** · 03-27-2009, 03:16 PM

way too many cycles at 21 at that age i was still pumpin al-natural, and look at me now son...

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 03:16 PM

I am a severe endomorph. I gained 55 lbs in the last 4 years. My diet and everything is in check. stomach problems paternal in my family. started using steroids to fix them. it worked. that's why I use them, never get the gains a normal person would from a cycle. I like cutting steroids cuz I keep 90% of the gains I get. very estrogen related side effect prone. Have access to just about everything. and I follow and take into consideration every piece of advice given. goal is to gain quality muscle that is harder to lose. if my diet strays from 4000 calories a day not including any calories from shakes/ drinks etc. then I will lose on average ten pounds a week. no joke

***D7M*** · 03-27-2009, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Twist

I am a severe endomorph. I gained 55 lbs in the last 4 years. My diet and everything is in check.

I'm not calling you out on your diet. But if you post up your daily diet, I'm sure some of the experts here will help you tweak it.

Originally Posted by Twist

stomach problems paternal in my family. started using steroids to fix them. it worked. that's why I use them, never get the gains a normal person would from a cycle.

self-medicating AAS for health related issues is not usually a good thing.

**lord henry** · 03-27-2009, 03:21 PM

i dont think steroids are the way to go to solve your helth issuse

**GauchB** · 03-27-2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by lord henry

i dont think steroids are the way to go to solve your helth issuse

agree^^^^^

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 03:34 PM

been to every stomach doctor stanford clinic ****ing everywhere. doctors have no idea what is up. steroids work that is what I will use until I get an answer from a doctor which I am still looking for, last doctor suggested that I am making it up... long story short can't hold down food, gag reflex is out of control, no appetite at all, stomach holds about one bite of food and anything over that amount it kicks back up involuntarily.
Diet
breakfast 1 (to stretch my stomach)
pint of Ice cream mixed in blender with 1 scoop protein powder, 1 greek yogurt, 2 cups milk
Breakfast 2
fruit smoothie, cup oatmeal or eggs and toast
pre lunch
protein shake

lunch 1
philly cheese steak with provolone cheese and tortilla (flour)

lunch 2
12 oz salmon, 2 sushi rolls (avocado, cream cheese, salmon)

workout

Dinner 1
half of a chicken all white meat, 1 scoop of sweet potatoes, 1 scoop creamed spinach, 2 oz turkey with gravy

Dinner 2 (30 minutes before bed)
steak or chicken, veggies, protein shake

snack at 3-4am every morning
1 apple, 1 banana, 1 protein shake, 1 greek yogurt

I drink gatorade mixed with waxymaize starch to keep from eating myself during the day, and about 3 protein shakes per day at 25g protein per shake

help appreciated

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 03:35 PM

many many snacks throughout day are not posted

***D7M*** · 03-27-2009, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Twist

many many snacks throughout day are not posted

such as?

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 03:41 PM

mostly fruit, work as waiter at restaurant so I use anything I can grab, chicken wing here, fries, salad, whatever I can get my hands on...
Any ideas on what I can add to my diet or cycle that will produce gains that stay through off cycle until I can run another cycle.

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 03:42 PM

mostly fruit, work as waiter at restaurant so I use anything I can grab, chicken wing here, fries, salad, whatever I can get my hands on...
Any ideas on what I can add to my diet or cycle that will produce gains that stay through off cycle until I can run another cycle.

***D7M*** · 03-27-2009, 03:44 PM

have you run pct after any of these cycles?

well, to start with the diet you need more clean food. a pint of ice cream for breakfast is not going to cut it.

**lord henry** · 03-27-2009, 03:44 PM

vitb12 injections would be better for you than steroids .

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 03:50 PM

I used b12 injections and they do not create an appetite like I need in order to sustain weight. I only use ice cream in the morning to stretch my stomach. I cannot eat hard food so I must drink my so my stomach can stretch.

***D7M*** · 03-27-2009, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Twist

I cannot eat hard food so I must drink my so my stomach can stretch.

but you eat solid food the rest of the day, right?

what do you think your medical condition is?

**lord henry** · 03-27-2009, 03:56 PM

sounds like steroids are the last thing you need to be looking at bud.

you plan on useing steroid for the rest of your life or untill this condition is sorted?

be very very carefull on what path you take here...

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 04:04 PM

yea I do plan on using steroids until this is sorted out. I have no harmful condition like worms or ulsers, so its not like the condition is getting worse. I have no idea what the condition is. It feels like I am eating to support the weight of a 10 year old boy. I eat very little. thin and bony if I dont use as. I need a doctor that will prescribe test and equipoise and write me a prescription for life. and yes I eat solid food throughout the day once my stomach starts working. but unless one of you is a doctor who can help me with my stomach issues I would really appreciate the cycle help? what should I use in my cycle? thinking of eq because of the hunger but it should be run on long cycles and I only have about 2 months left but can extend to 3 months.

**lord henry** · 03-27-2009, 04:10 PM

i am not willing to give you any advise on a cycle plan here as i belive you are going to do your self alot of dammage if you stay on the path you on ,you 21 and 5 cycles under your belt ,bud thats not good ,by the time your 31 how many is it going to be be?

are you saying without steroids you can not eat at all?

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 04:23 PM

pretty much. i will drop weight to about 115. About not giving me advice I believe that is a douche bag move. What happened to steroids are not bad for you blah blah blah??? If I have no known medical condition to worsen then how can I damage myself? 5 cycles yes because I generally do about 3 months on and then 3-4 off and by the time my stomach has reached back to its genetic low of milk for breakfast, because I can't eat a real ****ing meal it is time to cycle again. I feel you must not have anything to add because otherwise you would help. that is what the site is for.
I will cycle the rest of my life if I have to. If it shortens my life then fine. My father is 45 and cannot eat a meal more than 6 oz. he cant eat dairy because his body can't digest it, and for a year he ate nothing but bananas. he throws up every night and is in constant stomach pain. He has given up on all doctors because they don't know what the **** they are talking about and give bs answers rather than say "even though I went to med school for so long, I have no idea what is wrong with you." his life will probably be shortened due to this condition that remains unknown. I refuse to follow this miserable path. I feel out of all the people I have seen on this board I am the most valid user of aas. the rest of you just want to be big, something I will never achieve. I need aas to live normally and I ask for your advice so I can do as little harm to my body as possible. I even fixed an existing kidney problem with hgh. medical tests to prove it. so please if you have anything to add please do

**Hazard** · 03-27-2009, 04:32 PM

Twist..... have you had a scoping w/ a gastroscope? If you haven't.... goto your doctor IMMEDIATELY and ask him to prescribe one for you so you can get it done. My long time best friend had the same problem as you and he was just diagnosed 4 weeks ago with Celiak (sp? lol) Disease. They scoped him and took a biopsy of his stomach and the biopsy came back posotive. What it means is NOOOOO starches or processed foods. It's a sh*tty sh*tty diet but if he wants to stay cancer free and be healthy - he's gotta doit. His doc said ESPECIALLY no beer..... that killed him lol.

I'm not saying you have the same disease...... but it's something to look into. I wouldn't rest until i found a doctor to figure it out..... your problems could lead to bigger problems down the road......

~Haz~

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 04:34 PM

actually yes that is why my dad ate bananas for a year they told him it was celiacs(idk either) and then later found out they were wrong...

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 04:35 PM

ps i dont drink any alcohol, caffeine etc... water gatorade and protein, juice and milk ok

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 04:36 PM

pss thank you for the post and concern hazard

**Hazard** · 03-27-2009, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Twist

pss thank you for the post and concern hazard

no problem man..... I just think you need to find out the root of your problem. I know you WANT to lol..... it's the doctors who can't figure it out. When it comes to your health..... you need to take control of it man. If one doctor can't figure it out..... see another..... if 99 doctors can't figure it out..... see 100. Do w/e it takes to figure out the problem...... the fact that you live this way and depend on steroids to live life is just flat out WRONG.

In a sense..... i can understand why you are doing what your doing...... but at the same time.... i know you know it's wrong also. I'm really urging you to not give up here..... the effects of taking steroids to "temporarily fix" your problem now may not be showing up..... but they may 10 years from now and by then it'll be too late.

Please understand that the people here are more concerned about your health and thats why getting advice on a cycle is going to be a bit hard.....

good luck man..... i hope you can get this figured out.

~Haz~

**lord henry** · 03-27-2009, 04:46 PM

ok can i ask a couple of questions-

what weight were you when you started aas/what weight are you now?

do you do a pct?

i do feel for you bud it sounds loike you are going thu a very hard time here

**Twist** · 03-27-2009, 04:53 PM

I have not stopped seeing doctors. I am going to see a hormone doctor too see if they will just prescribe the stuff. Most doctors I have seen have just been against steroids all together. as soon as I mention that I used them they shut me out. plus due to the gear I look very fit and healthy so they think there is nothing wrong with me. One doctor I was seeing told me there is nothing wrong with me and to stop using steroids. I stopped then came to him three weeks later at about 15 pounds less than I weighed before. he told me I am still within normal weight at 130 pounds and 5'7". I asked him if he would like me to come back in a week when I weigh 15 pounds less and he told me that my condition is all in my head. what a ****er. I was 110 pounds when I started trying to gain weight about 4-5 years ago. Yes pct is a must always have nolva, clomid, hcg , and letro on hand during cycle and always use pct after cycle.