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    turk534 is offline New Member
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    1st Cycle Please critiques!

    Background: I am an Electrition and a NSCA certified personal trainer. I have been researching PED off and on since i was about 18. I think like most male teenagers I wanted to look like arnold. As i have gotten older my goals have changed. I recently started training in BJJ. I love it but it is very hard on my body. After a few months of serious research and saving the money I am going to start my first cycle.

    Stats: 6', 190lbs, 13% bf, 21y, 4 years lifting and swimming seriously, 3 months training bjj. "Endomesomorph"

    Goal: Gain 20 lbs lbm and cut 3-4% bf. I'd like to surpass my genetic potential Become a super human!

    I have 10xamps 250mg Test E : 10ml/200mg EQ : 100tbl /10mg Nolva

    week 1 : 250mg Test E: 400 mg EQ
    week 2 : 250mg Test E: 200 mg EQ
    week 3 : 250mg Test E: 200 mg EQ
    week 4 : 250mg Test E: 200 mg EQ
    week 5 : 250mg Test E: 200 mg EQ
    week 6 : 250mg Test E: 200 mg EQ
    week 7 : 250mg Test E: 200 mg EQ
    week 8 : 250mg Test E: 200 mg EQ
    week 9 : 250mg Test E: 200 mg EQ
    week 10: 250mg Test E

    4 weeks of PCT starting 1 week after last injection nolva 40/40/20/20
    Test Monday and EQ on Thursdays

    I know that most people don't recommend using steroids before the age of 24-25, i know the risks and i am willing to take my chances. The only thing I'm not 100% about is the pct. There is so much information out there. With only 450mg a week of hormones and half of it being EQ there shouldn't be too much amortization. I really don't want to spend more money on it than I have to. I decided to front load the EQ the first week because i know it is a longer acting ester so i wanted to end it a week before the Test E.

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    T-MOS is offline Educate B4 You Medicate~HOF~RIP Our Brother~
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    First cycle you should limit to just ONE compound. You need to learn how your body reacts to each compound. If you use multi compounds, how will you know what is working and what may not be or what is giving you good sides or bad sides???

    Test E needs to be injected every 3.5 days, not once a week. 250 is a rather low dose, most first cycle go with 500 for 10-12 weeks

    Eq is rather weak and slow. most recommend no less than 600 mgs/week for no less than 14-16 weeks to see results

    PCT would start 14 days after last injection of test E , NOT 7 days and you will need more than just Nolva. I would add clomid as well. Your natural production WILL be shut down, so you need both to help get it back up and running

    I would also have an AI on hand during the cycle to help with water retention and signs of gyno

    YES YOU ARE A BIT YOUNG TO BE USING. but if your gonna do it, at least do it correctly!!

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    turk534 is offline New Member
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    What about 250mg test e every monday and thursday for 10 weeks. run nolva and clomid 2 weeks after last injection. nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid at 100 for 10 days and 50 for an additional 10 days. Also I've heard that running Proviron during can keep you looking "dry" is this true?

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    I'd say go with 500mg/ week like you just suggested.
    Leave the EQ out for the first run.

    PCT you are correct I would stick with 50/50/50/50 though.

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    ^^^ what he said x 2.

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