1st cycle dbol/ test e.

[spiromik]

hey guys as many of u may know on this forum, iv had much bad luck with legit gear i have been jackd twice last year once with fake sus and once with another source both times the gear was fake did nothing for me..
Anyways time has come to do my 1st proper cycle ( well i hope 3rd times a charm and my badluck doesnt carry on lol)
my stats are
age 21 yrs
99-100kg about 12-14% thats just a rough estimate. can see abs (started at 58kg been training for about 4 years hard)
height 6 foot
diet is in check.

anyways i most likly going to run my cycle something like this:
1-4 40 mg dbol
1-10 750 mg test
12-14- pct nolva

i know that it may seem that im pumping alot of stuff into me for the first. but iv been told that running 500mg wk wont do much due to my body mass. wat do u guys rekon?
i know im probably gonna look like at bloated for the length of the course but wat can u do..
any input would be appreciated, DONT START FLAMING me saying im to young this that, is ur diet in check ( well obviously my diet is in check iv gained 40 kg in 4 years so my training and diet must be good)...
thanks

[rhino1]

-Drop test to 500mg/wk and lengthen cycle to 14 weeks
-Decrease dbol to 25mg and lengthen to 6 weeks


750 too much for first cycle....thats bull sh it about 500mg not working due to your body mass...

[spiromik]

-Drop test to 500mg/wk and lengthen cycle to 14 weeks
-Decrease dbol to 25mg and lengthen to 6 weeks


750 too much for first cycle....thats bull sh it about 500mg not working due to your body mass...

isnt 14 wks to long to run test for... dont the gains slow down heaps?

[rhino1]

Its possible to plateau but I never run long esters less than 12 weeks...

aas is the last factor that coinsides with gains slowing down...

Mostly that is due to over training, lack of sleep, not switching up your routine and not having your diet in check

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

anyways i most likly going to run my cycle something like this:
1-4 40 mg dbol
1-10 750 mg test
12-14- pct nolva

Weeks 1-5: 40mg D-Bol ED (Spread through out the day)
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test E (2x 250mg per week)

Start PCT Week 12
Nolva 40/40/20/20 | Clomid: 50/50/50/50

If any fears of Gyno possibly have letro on hand, Arimidex at 0.25mg EOD
Should be good to go! I also agree 750mg Test is too much for first cycle.

[rhino1]

Weeks 1-5: 40mg D-Bol ED (Spread through out the day)
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test E (2x 250mg per week)

Start PCT Week 12
Nolva 40/40/20/20 | Clomid: 50/50/50/50

If any fears of Gyno possibly have letro on hand, Arimidex at 0.25mg EOD
Should be good to go! I also agree 750mg Test is too much for first cycle.

OK...well...im not sure why you would want to stop at 10 weeks....but whatever...

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

OK...well...im not sure why you would want to stop at 10 weeks....but whatever...

I can only use 10ml vials therefore completing a 10 week cycle = completing 2 vials without shelling out for a third
Thats what I was going off

[spiromik]

so u guys rekon run test for 12-14 wks? doesnt the ester last for like 2 weeks so if i ran it for 10 weeks test levels would drop by week 12 n when u start pct!!!
just wann get other people opinions after all i want to do it rite i want to get the maximum results off my 1 st cycle. thanks

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

so u guys rekon run test for 12-14 wks? doesnt the ester last for like 2 weeks so if i ran it for 10 weeks test levels would drop by week 12 n when u start pct!!!
just wann get other people opinions after all i want to do it rite i want to get the maximum results off my 1 st cycle. thanks

Half Life:
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days

Esters:
Cypionate 12 days
Enanthate 10.5 days


Run it for 12 weeks if you can though in my books 10 weeks is acceptable, anything less is a no-no.