First Cycle Help!

**Jaycee8980** · 03-30-2009, 06:07 PM

I am going to be starting my first "real" cycle soon...

I will be taking D Bol.

My question is:

1. With what should I take it with? Anything OTC I can take as well?
2. What should I take as a PCT? Anything OTC? Or will I need to get an RX for Clomid or Nolva?

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-30-2009, 06:08 PM

NO DBOL ONLY CYCLES

Age?
Height?
Weight?
Bf%?
Training Experience?

You need to do a lot of research, you buy DBOL but you don't buy a PCT? OTC is worthless and will not restart your HPTA. But then again a DBOL only cycle is worthless and just a waste of cash and makes you bloat like a whale.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 03-30-2009, 06:09 PM

age
height
weight bf%
training and cycle exp

1st please...and welcome

**CHUCKYthentic** · 03-30-2009, 06:10 PM

AND NO DBOL ONLY CYCLES

i just want to be exactly like you Immortal lol

**Jaycee8980** · 03-30-2009, 06:13 PM

Age: 20
Height: 6'3.5"
Weight: 202 Lbs
Training Experience: I am just beginning to seriously lift..

Thank you for the quick responses by the way !

***D7M*** · 03-30-2009, 06:15 PM

approximate bf?

well, you're too young to be getting into aas, bro.

especially if are just getting into lifting

**Jaycee8980** · 03-30-2009, 06:16 PM

Not sure what my body fat % is. I am sure I have gained a bit as I have been limited to just rehabbing for the last 5 months due to an ACL Tear. Previous to that though about 6-7% I was in great shape.

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-30-2009, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

AND NO DBOL ONLY CYCLES

i just want to be exactly like you Immortal lol

You forgot the chairshot similies

Originally Posted by Jaycee8980

Age: 20
Height: 6'3.5"
Weight: 202 Lbs
Training Experience: I am just beginning to seriously lift..

Thank you for the quick responses by the way !

Too young my friend and the fact you just started lifting seriously.

First you need to get your diet in order to maximize gains and get your training down to a science.

Second dbol only cycles will just make you bloat and after cycle you will lose it all, so a waste of $$$$$.

Third, you need to do alot for research, you are no where close to being ready to cycle. Check the educational threads for information and read up, it will take time but it will be worth it.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 03-30-2009, 06:18 PM

ya man i agree that you are too young, most importantly.... you should hold off at least 3 - 4 years

2nd, you def need to do a ton of more research

**Jaycee8980** · 03-30-2009, 06:19 PM

Is anadrol perhaps any better. I have heard mixed results about the toxicity of it versus D-Bol per mg?

***D7M*** · 03-30-2009, 06:21 PM

bro, no one's going to reccomend any cycle for you, especially an oral only cycle.

at 20 you got tons of time to gain naturally, lean about diet, and find what *your* body responds to.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 03-30-2009, 06:23 PM

nope its not any better

oral only cycles are not suggested, especially those compound. if any IMO anavar or Tbol

but you NEED test as a baseline in any cycle because most AAS shut down your natural test production

like i said tho, i wouldnt worry bout this right now. you need to do more research and get a solid training and diet foundation under your belt, not to mention again, you re too young bud

**thai-lan** · 03-30-2009, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jaycee8980

I am going to be starting my first "real" cycle soon...

I will be taking D Bol.

real cycle? DBOL ONLY?? JUST STARTING TO WORK OUT SeriousLY???

You dont need AAS to put on some size , train solid for two years with a good diet . And you will see how much size you will put on without AAS !!!

**Jaycee8980** · 03-30-2009, 07:04 PM

I don't have "two" years.

It is a matter of rehabilitating an ACL which took away multiple Division 1 football scholarships.

**jbm** · 03-30-2009, 07:15 PM

Everything has been said Jaycee8980! they are all right, hope you listen bro...

**Jaycee8980** · 03-30-2009, 07:17 PM

Thank you!

**Big** · 03-30-2009, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jaycee8980

I don't have "two" years.

It is a matter of rehabilitating an ACL which took away multiple Division 1 football scholarships.

if your theory is to take steroids to rehab your ACL you will likely be disappointed. If you try the cycles you have proposed you will be disappointed for a number of reasons.