Fina = insonmia ???

**lxorl** · 12-02-2002, 07:45 AM

I was wondering if anyone had trouble sleeping while on fina?? Is this a normal side of fina? I am only on day 2 of the fina, and have not been sleeping too well... I was wondering if this is from the fina, or just becuase my schedule is a little off from the holidays??

**gettingbigger816** · 12-02-2002, 08:01 AM

i was on fina over summer and could not sleep for shit. I dont know if this is a common side of fina. Towards the end of the cycle i went to the doc and got sleeping pills, ambien and trazodone. Ambien did not work at all but the trazodone worked like a charm. I have plenty of that for my upcoming fina cycle. I would go to the doc and tell him you have been having trouble sleeping lately and ask him for the trazodone. That worked great.

**footballcat** · 12-02-2002, 08:28 AM

Im not sleeping good either. I go to bed real tired, and just sit there, takes about 30 min to fall asleep

**BIGBOD** · 12-02-2002, 08:39 AM

HAVEN'T YOU GUYS EVER HEARD OF MASTURBATION! LOL! IT IS THE BEST SLEEPING PILL THERE IS! SEX IS EVEN BETTER.

**en1222** · 12-02-2002, 08:39 AM

what about taking like unison's or Tylenol PM's? Do u think that they would work or they should not be taken when taking fina?

Also did you try moving the shots to the AM?

**lxorl** · 12-02-2002, 08:43 AM

I WAS THINKING OF MOVING THE SHOTS TO THE AM... YOU THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE?

**landshark** · 12-02-2002, 09:35 AM

I am having the same problem. 75mg ED in the morning, and about 2 or 3 days into it, I can't sleep for shit, and it ruins the rest of my frigging day. Got some ambien on the way, hope it will do the trick.

God this sucks.

And I believe, at least in my case, that it is directly from the tren , as I have never had any trouble like this with any other AS. Good luck to all with this problem...

**lxorl** · 12-02-2002, 09:37 AM

I USUALLY TAKE VELARIAN ROOT, BUT THAT DIDNT WORK... I DONT REALLY HAVE ACCESS TO PERSCRIPTIONS.... ANY THOUGHTS...

SO WHAT RESULTS HAVE YOU BEEN GETTING FROMT HE TREN ??

**gettingbigger816** · 12-02-2002, 09:41 AM

i tried over the counter sleeping med like tylenol pms and nyquil but u build up a tolerance too quick and wake up feeling like shit.

**lxorl** · 12-02-2002, 09:43 AM

YEAH I DONT LIKE TYLENOL PM OR ANYTHINT LIKE THAT EITHER... ITS NOT A GOOD CLEAN SLEEP.....

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT TAKING MY SHOTS IN THE MORNING... YOU THINK THAT WOULD HELP... OR NOT REALLY..... I MEAN ITS IN THE SYSTEM EITHER WAY....

**landshark** · 12-02-2002, 09:43 AM

If the Ambien doesn't cut it, I might give Inositol a try, which supposedly works well, and is OTC, so you may want to give that a try. No personal experience with it as of yet though.

**landshark** · 12-02-2002, 09:44 AM

...and please take your cap lock off. Thanx.

**gettingbigger816** · 12-02-2002, 09:44 AM

i still got great results from the tren even though i wasnt getting alot of sleep at first. the trazodone is the only thing that helped me sleep and if u can get it, i strongly suggest it. If u cant and can deal with little or no sleep, u will still get good results.

**TeenPL** · 12-02-2002, 10:48 AM

i am on my second week of fina and having trouble sleeping. I wake up many times throughout the night.

**en1222** · 12-02-2002, 11:32 AM

What do u think causes this trouble sleeping? Does anyone know?

**en1222** · 12-02-2002, 11:39 AM

Isn't trazodone a anti - depressent drug? Is it known to help people sleep?

**Buddha_Red** · 12-02-2002, 11:48 AM

I always have a problem staying asleep on fina.
For me personally, i found it was because i was running mine at to high a dosage for me.

My first cycle was 100mgs ED and i had every side except fina dick and bitch tits.

I dropped mine down to 75mgs ED and i returned to useful sleep.
What is everyone running? and how far into your cycle are you currently?

**lxorl** · 12-02-2002, 11:52 AM

im on day 3 now... at 75ed.... may go eod... not positive... just noticed the lack of sleep lastnight... i couldnt falll asleep at all... maybe 2 hours all night

**gettingbigger816** · 12-02-2002, 11:58 AM

trazodone was and still is a anti depres. My doc told me when it first came out low doses were given throughout the day for treating depression. Then it was found that 50mg before bed helped in treating insomnia. So now it is starting to be used as a sleeping aid. Just passing on knowledge based on my experiences with insomnia from fina. It is the only med that has ever helped.

**lxorl** · 12-02-2002, 12:00 PM

i wouldnt know where to look for trazodone ... i dont have a doctor i could go to for a script....

**gettingbigger816** · 12-02-2002, 12:04 PM

its not that popular i guess cuz i had never heard of it b4 my doc told me about it. Let me try to see if i can find it somewhere on the net. Ill pm u if i find something. I know what a bitch it is to toss and turn all night.

**en1222** · 12-02-2002, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by lxorl
im on day 3 now... at 75ed.... may go eod... not positive... just noticed the lack of sleep lastnight... i couldnt falll asleep at all... maybe 2 hours all night

2 hours that sucks. There is no way i can go on 2 hours of sleep everyday. I think i would collaspe. Good luck with trying the diff meds. Let me know what works for you.

**gettingbigger816** · 12-02-2002, 12:13 PM

you got a pm lxorl.

**footballcat** · 12-02-2002, 12:18 PM

day 6 for me, im getting about 6 hours, but i wake up 4 times a night. And its not a deep sleep, its like i can hear everything.

I also take my shots in the AM, and only 80mg a day. I dont know what it is, but i cycle through being tired, then wide awake.

**gettingbigger816** · 12-02-2002, 12:21 PM

stick with it football cat ur gonna love the results. if ur getting six hours sleep that will be good enough. When i was on it i was still making great gains on 4 or 5 hours sleep.

**lxorl** · 12-02-2002, 12:41 PM

i think im going to try velarian and malatonin tonight.... but i work late and get up early as hell... its going to be hard to even make it to the gym 4 times this week.......... I hope i get good results from the fina... beacuas it looks like im going to be exhausted the next couple of weeks

**tt333** · 12-02-2002, 05:21 PM

This is great to hear, Ive had insonmia for 2 years and Im going to start a Fina cycle in Jan.

**WhackTheBid** · 12-02-2002, 06:50 PM

LXORL-
try the melitonin that may help a bit- AM shots - I dont think it matters to much- Get used to crap sleep and good luck.

**lxorl** · 12-03-2002, 05:45 AM

how do i get to my private messages??

**gettingbigger816** · 12-03-2002, 06:31 AM

on the bottom left of this screen there is a box that says Forum Jump. Click the drop down arrow and select private messages.

**en1222** · 12-03-2002, 08:08 AM

how many mg's of trazodone do u suggest? Does it keep you sleeping for 6-8 hours? Do u take 1 a night and do u wake up feeling good?

Thanks.

**gettingbigger816** · 12-03-2002, 10:30 AM

i take 50 mgs b4 bed and i get a good 7-8 hours sleep. You may wake up 1 or 2 times but at least its not every hour like when im on fina. And yes you wake up feeling good doesnt give u that groggy feeling you get from tylenol pms or nyquil.

**TeenPL** · 12-03-2002, 10:31 AM

uhhh....just had another night of crappy sleep. Just hope its worth it.

**lxorl** · 12-03-2002, 10:31 AM

by the time i ordered and they got here, my fina cycle would be half over...

**gettingbigger816** · 12-03-2002, 11:18 AM

u gotta deal with shitty sleep until they get there.

**lxorl** · 12-03-2002, 11:22 AM

yeha... but they are 60$$ plus shipping... and there is no guarantee that they will work for me.... i know a lot of people who cant use velarian root, but it usually works like a charm for me..... just doesnt seem to help with the fina...