Adding Deca to a Test e cycle....

[rksdmf]

hey guys,

Here is my cycle so for

week 1- 250 mg test e

week 2- 250 mg test e

week 3 -500 mg test e

week 4- 500 mg test e

week 5- 500 mg test e

I will be adding deca in week six.....now i realize i will have to extend the cycle because of the low doses in the beginning and because I have to stop the deca 2 weeks b4 the test....

my question is, with 500 mg/ test e a week, how much of the deca should i take a week.....in mg

also, should i take the test and deca at the same time or in between each other, im going the test 250 mg 2x / week

I have Norma 100mg/ml in 2 ml vials.....

I also plan on adding winnie 50mg tabs ed for the last 30 days

And since i know the question will come....

age 27
weight 195
ht 5 11
bf about 11%

thanks....

[CHUCKYthentic]

what is your past cycle history/experience?

[rksdmf]

ive done 2 other test only cycles, its been a year since my last one

[CHUCKYthentic]

pick a dose with the test, do not taper up like that, 500mg/week is fine

as with the deca, if you re gonna use it start it in the beginning, dont throw it in mid-way through

how long you plan on running this cycle?
what do you have for pct?

[rksdmf]

i understand about the tapering up, i just wanted to see how my body would react to the new test.....i understand to use it in the beginning i just got my hands of some good stuff so i decided to add it......i will now be running this cycle fhwoor a total of 16 weeks....

i have nolvadex and clomid for pct....

how much of the deca should i take in mgs if i am taking 500 mgs a week of the test? and when shoud i take the deca....with the test or in between my test shots?

[CHUCKYthentic]

so you re already in your cycle?

ya take em in the same shot, you re fine there, its only about 2cc depending on the dose of your vials

IMO id go 400-500mg/week of the deca

if you re running 16 weeks, id consider getting some hcg

[rksdmf]

i was going to wait to see if the sides such as gyno were going to come a long and then add arimidex, but then again why would i want to wait for sides....

i have norma nandrolone decanoate 2ml vials @ 100 mg/ml

[T-MOS]

you don't pyramid doses, thats is old school

you want your blood levels to build up to dose and be stable

500 test
400 deca is usual dose

200 deca is considered therapeutic dose

[rksdmf]

and yes i allready started the cycle i have already taken what i posted, my next shot will be the start of week 6

[CHUCKYthentic]

if you re gyno prone, i dont see any problem with running a low dose of adex.

i do .25mg EOD and it serves me very well, not to mention im pretty lean and hate bloat

[rksdmf]

i understand about the tapering and pyramiding, im not trying to be a d&#k i just really need the questions i asked answered....

[T-MOS]

i understand about the tapering and pyramiding, im not trying to be a d&#k i just really need the questions i asked answered....

what question did I miss??

[rksdmf]

i do .25mg EOD and it serves me very well, not to mention im pretty lean and hate bloat

thats your doise of the deca?

[rksdmf]

what question did I miss??

its in the original post, the two questions.....

"my question is, with 500 mg/ test e a week, how much of the deca should i take a week.....in mg

also, should i take the test and deca at the same time or in between each other, im going the test 250 mg 2x / week"

....sorry if i wasnt clear

[CHUCKYthentic]

no no no the .25mg EOD is my dose for the arimidex

run the deca at 400mg/week

[T-MOS]

its in the original post, the two questions.....

"my question is, with 500 mg/ test e a week, how much of the deca should i take a week.....in mg

also, should i take the test and deca at the same time or in between each other, im going the test 250 mg 2x / week"

....sorry if i wasnt clear

i answered the one question above, normal cycle with test/deca is

test @ 500
Deca @ 400

Take them both in the same syringe, BUT keep in mind if you are already in week 6, how long are you gonna run each, as deca won't kick in for another 4-6 weeks now and you need to run Test at least a week or two longer than the deca

[rksdmf]

you don't pyramid doses, thats is old school

you want your blood levels to build up to dose and be stable

500 test
400 deca is usual dose

200 deca is considered therapeutic dose

^^ didnt see this answer, sorry bro....

my vials are only 2 ml @ 100mg/ml, that seems like a lot of "liquid" to be taking in....

[rksdmf]

i answered the one question above, normal cycle with test/deca is

test @ 500
Deca @ 400

Take them both in the same syringe, BUT keep in mind if you are already in week 6, how long are you gonna run each, as deca won't kick in for another 4-6 weeks now and you need to run Test at least a week or two longer than the deca

planned on doing 16 weeks now, orginally 12, but might even go longer than 16 now

[T-MOS]

time your winny so that you run it 14 days past the test E right up to the day before PCT

[rksdmf]

im really lookiing a tit as being in week 4 since my first two doses were minimal

[T-MOS]

^^ didnt see this answer, sorry bro....

my vials are only 2 ml @ 100mg/ml, that seems like a lot of "liquid" to be taking in....

well, deca is usually concentrated higher, but you will be fine with 3 ml shot

I do that in the glutes now

[T-MOS]

im really lookiing a tit as being in week 4 since my first two doses were minimal

thats fine, you already know you need to extend the cycle, but I would run the deca for 10 weeks minimum if you can or it will be kind of a waste

so your cycle will be a long one , but as long as you got everything under control and watch your Sides you will be fine.....

[CHUCKYthentic]

i see what you re saying on the dose of the deca now

yes this would require you to dump 3cc at each shot, it doable, but personally ill only put 3cc in my glutes

[rksdmf]

well, deca is usually concentrated higher, but you will be fine with 3 ml shot

I do that in the glutes now

its norma....arent they always 100mg/ml?

[rksdmf]

i see what you re saying on the dose of the deca now

yes this would require you to dump 3cc at each shot, it doable, but personally ill only put 3cc in my glutes

i can only use my glutes for athletic reasons, tryed in my deltoid and quad, and was extremely and too painful for what i do....

[T-MOS]

its norma....arent they always 100mg/ml?

I am not sure about that, but my deca is usually dosed at 200mgs/ml

you will be fine with 3ml in glutes just inject very s l o w l y take several minutes to push it in

[bene7422]

its norma....arent they always 100mg/ml?

yea 100mg/ml-2ml vials

[seriousmass]

its norma....arent they always 100mg/ml?

seriously.. only 100mg per mL..? that's a pretty low concentration...

too bad. that's quite a bit of liquid.

take slow, slow injections so your body gets the chance to absorb that gigantic wave of test / deca. lol

[Karo]

Not to derail your thread but if you're doing good on Test E than I wouldn't bother with Deca. I started a Test E/Deca cycle and dropped the Deca half way through. I don't think the benefits outweigh the side-effects. Not only that but I think what it actually adds to a Test cycle is minimal. After all the reading I don't think i'll use any 19-nor again.

Good luck in whatever you choose.

[rksdmf]

thanks all for your input....

I actually did the first deca/test e shot today @ a total of 3 ml.....

i did 1.5 ml in each glute......i will say though since the deca was added i now have no more pain, or at least so far......