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    critique my cycle and pct

    First cycle ever:

    1) test e - 400mg/wk for 12 weeks (tapered down wk 11-300mg and wk 12-200 mg)

    2) equipoise - 300mg/wk for 12 weeks (tapered down wk 11 - 200mg and wk 12- 100mg)

    3)d-bol - 25mg ed for 4 weeks

    *will be using arimidex throughout at 0.25mg eod (nolva on hand but used only if gyno occurs)

    for PCT:

    HCG - week 11,12,13,14 at 3000iu per week.
    Nolva - week 14,15 at 40mg ed week 16, 17 at 20mg ed
    arimidex - continued from cycle onwards till week 17


    My concerns:
    1) do i need to use clomid during pct, i read somewhere that it is completely unnecessary if ur already using nolva (i can post the link if ne one is interested)

    2) is my dosing for arimidex during cycle adequate ( i do not intend to use it two weeks prior to my cycle, i.e. i will start from day 1 of the cycle)

    3) do i need to continue using arimidex during pct as well?

    4) is my use of HCG adequate?

    plus ne thing else u guys think may look a bit suspect!
    Last edited by gamemania; 04-06-2009 at 03:18 AM.

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    I would erase Equipoise and Dbol on my list! IMO...
    because it's your first cycle test e alone will be fine!

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    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?

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    i figure dbol would help with just kickstarting things, and i feel like equipoise might provide a boost to my cycle on the whole, basically i read its a better option then deca.

    What do u think?...how bout my use of ancillary drugs and pct?...seem ok to u?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst View Post
    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    Thanks for asking I forgot...

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    Don't wanna hurt you, but I think better wait till you are 24 or 25 before you juice.
    21 is still quite young. IMO!
    You can still grow naturally!
    Thanks...

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    i agree ^^^^ but if you are going to do it then drop the Equipoise and Bol as jbm said.. See how your body reacts first.. You will see some very good gains for your first time if you train and eat well.

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    At 21, you're too young. HPTA is not matured until like 24 or 25 years of age. Using earlier carries some extra heavy risk.

    At 160 you're on the lighter side. A lot of people will tell you to check your diet. No harm in doing so if you haven't already. Take a peek at the diet forum and post yours for review if you like. Might do the same with workout just for shits and giggles. Given your age and weight I think this is really what you need right now.

    As jbm said, test only is recommended for a first cycle. If you do your part gains will be plenty and if any sides arise you know where the blame lies and it can help in deciding what to do about it, both at that time and for the future.

    The layout you have is flawed anyway. Tapering is a thing of the past. EQ is probably somewhere next to useless at that dose (and some would argue even at twice that lol). You also didn't take into account the different wait times leading up to pct for the different compounds. The EQ would actually need to stop a week before the test.

    In answer to your other specific questions:
    1) I would definitely recommend clomid in pct.
    2) Only experience will tell you what dose of adex, if any, is right for you.
    3) There is a divided school of thought on this. In any case estrogen does need to be kept from going wild during pct. Be aware that adex and nolva do not get along. Aromasin is recommended as a preferred pct AI.
    4) I would actually say your hcg plan is overkill.

    A little learning never hurt anyone, and it looks like you have done some research. You clearly have some brains and initiative, so I went ahead and answered your questions to the best of my ability. I hope you are smart enough to make the right decisions. Take your time. Do things right.

    Here's a good read on pct and hcg for you: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

    And for my disclaimer: **I absolutely recommend that you do not use AAS yet.**

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    good post ernst

    and agreed.

    lets get our weight up before we use drugs.

    eat and train...

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