oral at beginning or end

[kifenehma3ak]

i was thinking about what somewhat wrote here on the forum.. he said it is better to take orals at the end of the cycle or maybe after it not sure what do u think?? does this work?.

[Mammon]

its effective both ways for different reasons.

[kifenehma3ak]

care to explain ?

[wukillabee]

Depends on too many factors, cycle goals, cycle length, etc. Are you just asking in general? If so i dont think its really a general question. Generally though if using a long ester cycle people kickstart first 4-6 weeks with an oral and if using short esters some like to take an oral last 4-6 weeks of cycle leading to pct. Then again, if doing say a 14 week long ester cycle id probably kickstart first 4 weeks with oral and end with another oral last 4 weeks leading to start of pct. This helps with that 2 week window of nothing waiting to start pct, using test enth/cyp as example, sust i think is 18 days before start of pct.

[JiGGaMaN]

that was me. i was saying he would be better off running it and overlapping the last 2 weeks after his last inject than kickstarting it. kickstarting you have nothing to lose, the 2 weeks till pct with no hormone including natural test will take away more gains than the kickstart will produce.

[kifenehma3ak]

so lets say for my first cycle if i wanted for example to take 12 weeks test enth and from week 10-14 i take anavar to t-bol and after week 14-18 pct nolva/clomid 40/20/20/20 100/100/50/50 with hcg from week 3 to week 14 250 iu 2x/week. what do u think???