Test without pinning

**aestheticmind** · 04-09-2009, 11:07 AM

for the time being, doing injections is just not possible.

i wanted to do a short winstrol run (thinking 4-6 weeks) at the end of my already-in-progress clen /anavar /t3 cycle. but, the consensus is that winny without test is bad news. so, i did some research on test and i found creams, patches, and so on...

my question is, are any of these even close to a viable option? if so, which system will be the most beneficial? if pinning is the only way to go, than i will just wait on the winny and test

thanks

**MASTER** · 04-09-2009, 11:11 AM

I would forget the winny for now. Var + Winny is asking for trouble imo. Creams and patches tend to be extremely low dosed, and pill form test is methylated, unless you get andriol which is mega expensive to dose properly, injections are the only way to keep levels stable and dosed properly imo.

RA · 04-09-2009, 11:22 AM

I would wait..whats your goals and stats?

**aestheticmind** · 04-09-2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by RA

I would wait..whats your goals and stats?

sorry i forgot!

6'3" 190 12% and dropping

ive been dieting heavily and blazing on the cardio.. i lost 60lbs natty and then hit a wall at about 15% BF, so i started clen /anavar /t3 and now im down to around 12% once i hit 10% im going to ease up on the cardio and start hitting the weights hard, and thats the time i want to add winstrol to give me some size and dry me out.

**Akrobatik** · 04-09-2009, 11:34 AM

You needle phobic?

**MASTER** · 04-09-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by aestheticmind

sorry i forgot!

6'3" 190 12% and dropping

ive been dieting heavily and blazing on the cardio.. i lost 60lbs natty and then hit a wall at about 15% BF, so i started clen/anavar/t3 and now im down to around 12% once i hit 10% im going to ease up on the cardio and start hitting the weights hard, and thats the time i want to add winstrol to give me some size and dry me out.

Wow, good job so far! How long have you been on the clen /var/t3?

**VWbug66** · 04-09-2009, 11:52 AM

i dont advise using the winny..i tired to do that same little cycle but with out the var and t3, it was all good till week 3, lost total libido, couldn't fvck or nething..you can prolly find my thread on here about it somewhere, but I dont advise the winny, get sum test for sure

**aestheticmind** · 04-09-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by MastaAce

Wow, good job so far! How long have you been on the clen/var/t3?

thanks man this is my third week

Originally Posted by Akrobatik

You needle phobic?

haha noooo my current living situation... some things i can do at work some things i cant, ya know?

**aestheticmind** · 04-09-2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by VWbug66

i dont advise using the winny..i tired to do that same little cycle but with out the var and t3, it was all good till week 3, lost total libido, couldn't fvck or nething..you can prolly find my thread on here about it somewhere, but I dont advise the winny, get sum test for sure

i never planned on doing winny without test, thats why im asking how else i can work this out

RA · 04-09-2009, 12:25 PM

How old are you?

**aestheticmind** · 04-09-2009, 01:43 PM

im 22

**DFDub** · 04-09-2009, 05:27 PM

Pin to win!

**Dizz28** · 04-09-2009, 05:30 PM

You live with your Parents....

**Matt** · 04-09-2009, 05:52 PM

Is it a full moon today??

**Gaspari1255** · 04-09-2009, 06:20 PM

Winny without test is a bad idea. Anavar without test isn't a horrible idea, I just personally wouldn't do it. Although it would be 1 of the 2 orals that I would run alone if it came down to it, other being t-bol.

**aestheticmind** · 04-09-2009, 06:22 PM

no i dont live with my parents and what does is it a full moon mean?

**Lemonada8** · 04-09-2009, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by aestheticmind

haha noooo my current living situation... some things i can do at work some things i cant, ya know?

u can hide all ur needles, vials, -oh swabs in a small travel bag, and store the empty syringes in a protein mix container.... that way u can keep it in a gym bag and shoot in the b-room and hide the syringe untill u can put it in the protein container... thats what i did when i traveled on cycle

as for the winny w/o test... its all been said and no need repeating it except for emphasis but you arent argueing or anything...

**aestheticmind** · 04-09-2009, 06:26 PM

once again i NEVER asked whether i could run winny without test. it was never an option!

i wanted to know about other ways of getting test. without needles.