not your ordiary test/dbol ?

[ml87]

so my buddy got 150 blue heart dbol and thought he could do a cycle. i told him not to even think about it from experience. so i was able to give him one of my 10ml bottles of test e 250. thats all i had to give him. i figured it would prevent much of the sides and keep his libido up and mayb save some gains. now how should he cycle it? i figured even a hrt dose should be fine. he also has one bottle of lions liquidex. is that enough? help a brother help a brother please.

[Big]

for starters we would need complete stats, cycle history, and the cycle being proposed.

[ml87]

im guestimating hes prob 6'0", 190. no cycle experience! low bf around 7%. training hard 5 years (hes a personal trainer)

[T-MOS]

what are you giving him for PCT?

[Mammon]

how about pct?

[Mammon]

damn it man

[ml87]

the things you do for friends.. he has the liquidex and just one bottle of it. what can he make of that? i am not giving he any of my stuff, i dont have that to spare.

[T-MOS]

the things you do for friends.. he has the liquidex and just one bottle of it. what can he make of that? i am not giving he any of my stuff, i dont have that to spare.

liquidex is fine for during cycle, but you will need Nolva/Clomid for PCT

can't make anything out of what you have if its NOT complete !!

[ml87]

ha thats wut i have but he aint touchin that, it was harder to get my hands on that then my actual gear. now pct put aside, what could he do with what he does have, wut dosage of test and for how long. he wants to do 5 wks dbol . so i assume run the test a little longer but just at a low dose? help!

[T-MOS]

ha thats wut i have but he aint touchin that, it was harder to get my hands on that then my actual gear. now pct put aside, what could he do with what he does have, wut dosage of test and for how long. he wants to do 5 wks dbol. so i assume run the test a little longer but just at a low dose? help!

Seriously???????

If he doesn't HAVE pct, then he doesn't have a cycle !! PERIOD !!! He can't do ANYTHING with that stuff without being able to recover from it.

[ml87]

ok just talked to him again.. he found another buddy that has nolva and clomid, just not much. so hes going to have to use it sparingly. im trying to tell him not to start but hes dead set on doing it because "memorial day weekend is just around the corner". wuts he cycle looking like now? he has 2500mg of test and 150 dbol ..

[T-MOS]

what do you thik i was born yesterday???? I wont' give you info because he doesn't have PCT so now magically he comes up with PCT???? OK

seriously....he has 10 ml of test, what do you think he can do with that???

he can do 10 weeks of it, but probably not gonna get a full 10ml out of the vial so he will be short

and if he is worried about a beach body, then skip the dbol cause that is just gonna put on a ton of water

[ml87]

yea he "magically came up with it" lol. i actually believe im cuz he told me who it was and im pretty sure the guy has it. 10ml would actually last him 10 weeks?! is he looking at any gains? and is 250ml a week going to shut him down hard?

[T-MOS]

yea he "magically came up with it" lol. i actually believe im cuz he told me who it was and im pretty sure the guy has it. 10ml would actually last him 10 weeks?! is he looking at any gains? and is 250ml a week going to shut him down hard?

shut down is shut down !! period !! he WILL be shut down !! How long it takes him to recover depends on his magical PCT !!!!

His gains are gonna be dependent on his diet , training, and rest, NOT the gear !! It will help, but its the other stuff that determines how much it helps and how much he keeps

doing a cycle half assed like this is gonna get you half assed resluts !!!!

[BIG_TRUCK]

He should do,

(1-6) 30mgs Dbol
(1-When it runs out) 200mgs Test

[ml87]

i like that idea a little. so hes fine if he runs the test for just one more week that the dbol ?

[T-MOS]

i like that idea a little. so hes fine if he runs the test for just one more week that the dbol?

where in there does it say that?

if he runs the dbol for 6 weeks, and the test at 200, he should be able to get 12 weeks out of the test

[Noles12]

he doesnt have the pct so dont let him start. he is uneducated and just wants to look good for summer. By the way how is it so hard to find. He already has lions liquidex. Why not just get the nolva and clomid from him?

[ml87]

yea i did the math wrong.. my bad. 200 mg a week will yield results? how strong is a pct on such a low dosed cycle? same as a regular pct or a little more mild?

[T-MOS]

yea i did the math wrong.. my bad. 200 mg a week will yield results? how strong is a pct on such a low dosed cycle? same as a regular pct or a little more mild?

yep, regular pct, for at least 4 weeks

200 is low, but if his diet and training is good, there is no reason why he can't make gains

[*RAGE*]

I would go with
clomid 100 mg ed for the first two weeks and 50 mg ed for two more weeks total four weeks

Nolva 20 mg ed for four weeks.....

[BIG_TRUCK]

yep, regular pct, for at least 4 weeks

200 is low, but if his diet and training is good, there is no reason why he can't make gains

Like Tmos said 200mgs is low but if his diet & training is good he should make gains.... Being his first cycle and all.

30mgs/day of quality dbol is more than enough.

Make sure you have your pct in order like Prone & tmos have said.