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    Smile 3rd Cycle help and Questions? check this out dudes!!!

    Diet
    1.5 to 2.0 grams of protein per pound of body weight/day
    5,000 + or - calories per day 8 meals per day and protein drink in-between meals. I have been working out hard for over 8 years.
    drink 2 gals of water is easy.

    Work out 6 days a week.

    5’9” 192 lbs currently body fat not sure but I am lean.
    I had back surgery due to sports injury in 2007. I tore my L-5 and L-4 in my lower back. A Dynesys Dynamic Stabilization System fixed that problem. My body is back to 100%. I have been working on my speed and playing spring football. I have been doing mat drills for the last couple of weeks. So lots and lots of cardio. Looking to bulk back to playing weight this summer and eat, work out, sleep. I am trying to lock myself up this summer and train hard. 100% balls to the wall lifting nothing but heavy this summer. My goal is to reach 215 lbs once again. I have done 2 cycles in my life. Would like to start a third but would like some help please!!!

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    Rep 225 - 27 times
    Broad jump 9'4"
    20 yard shuttle 4.18
    Also pole-vault 17 feet
    I swim in a pool for 1 hour 3 times a week. (sometimes I will sprint swim 20 X 50 yards rest for 30 seconds between each sprint)


    vitamin B-6 (600-1000 mg per day)
    Milk Thistle: 2 weeks before starting orals, and right after stopping for two weeks.
    letrozole throughout the cycle at a dose of 1.25 mg every other day. (might be to high of a dose) to

    Weeks 1-12: 500 mg/week testosterone enanthate (shot twice a week, 250 mg every 3 days) What are the advantage of 2 doses of 250 mg vs one dose of 500mg of Test?

    Weeks 1-10: 400 mg/week deca : should I shoot twice a week, 200 mg every 3 days? Or one dose? of 400mg once a week?

    Weeks 1-4: 35-45 mg/day dianabol or 100 mg test propionate every other day??

    Instead of Dbol I am leaning towards test propionate. Any thoughts?

    My PCT should start around 14 days after that last shot.
    weeks 1-2 40 mg/day nolvadex (tamoxafin citrate)
    weeks 3-4 20 mg/day nolvadex (tamoxafin citrate)


    Also what are your opinions about:
    250IU shot twice a week throughout the whole cycle, ending it 3 days before starting PCT?

    My goals are to put on 20 to 25 lbs of quality muscle.

    claims about Letrozole?
    This makes Letrozole (Femara) an appropriate choice for even the heaviest bulking or cutting cycles including harsh androgens. Also, if you are a competitive bodybuilder, Letrozole (Femara) is a must have product for contest prep; no other Ancillary compound will produce a dry and tight look like Letro will.

    Things I have read about Letrozole (Femara):
    Reduced estrogen in the test subject to undetectable levels, and increased LH, FSH and SHBG (4). Clearly this is all of interest to bodybuilders, as less estrogen in the body means less chance of certain side effects such as water-retention, Gynocomastia, and acne.

    I dont believe everything I read so I would love some input dude! I know this a very large thread and I asked a million questions. Just please bare with me please. ??? ???

    My last question is Equipoise (boldenone undecylenate) can I use that instead of the Deca and get the almost the same results? I know Equipoise must be used for 12 weeks at a dose of 400 mg to 600 mg?


    Thanks Everyone!!! Don't bust my balls to hard.
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    Ok... anybody????

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    just take a stab at it please..... any thoughts?

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    Split the deca in twice a week for opitmal blood levels.

    Dbol kickstart 40-50mg is good

    The advantages of shooting test-e twice a week is keeping blood levels stable.


    Remember deca will be in your system (testing wise) for a while, so is that a risk you want to take as an FSU athlete?

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    i would switch to the EQ. it can be detected up to 5 months while deca up to 18. I know they are testing in the summer. i go to a D2 school and they are starting to test in the summer this year as well as in season. be careful

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    I can always count on the Immortal Soldier!! Are you still living in FSU land? Its raining so F ing hard I just wanted to see people thoughts. I have to stay away from deca bc of the testing. I will

    What do you think about Letrozole ?

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    Letro can hinder your gains way too much and I like running the test another week past the deca .

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    i took it at the end of my cycle and into my pct. It stopped my gyno progression and killed my sex drive. i say keep it on hand in case problems arise. other than that idk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipfsu301 View Post
    I can always count on the Immortal Soldier!! Are you still living in FSU land? Its raining so F ing hard I just wanted to see people thoughts. I have to stay away from deca bc of the testing. I will

    What do you think about Letrozole?
    **** yeah dude it sucks, I wanted to go to leach then I heard from buddies they closed it cuz of the weather. Now I am waiting for a bit before I go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RA View Post
    Letro can hinder your gains way too much and I like running the test another week past the deca.
    Agreed, if you need an AI on cycle go with A-dex or even Proviron .

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    as usual, things tend to look better on paper than they do in the body. Thanks for the info on Letro.

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    Also what are your opinions about:
    250IU shot twice a week throughout the whole cycle, ending it 3 days before starting PCT? Overkill?


    Weeks 1-4: 35-45 mg/day dianabol or 100 mg test propionate every other day??

    So test propionate is voted off the island.

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    You talking about hcg ?

    Quote Originally Posted by chipfsu301 View Post
    Also what are your opinions about:
    250IU shot twice a week throughout the whole cycle, ending it 3 days before starting PCT? Overkill?


    Weeks 1-4: 35-45 mg/day dianabol or 100 mg test propionate every other day??

    So test propionate is voted off the island.

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    Yes Sir

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    Would add clomid to pct 100mg ed first week then 50mg ed following three weeks.

    Just keep some adex and nolva on hand in case gyno pops up. Agree with the others letro messes with your sex drive.

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    So letro messes with your sex drive for how long or could you take something to jump start it back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    Agreed, if you need an AI on cycle go with A-dex or even Proviron.
    what would you recommended dose be of Proviron ? etc Thanks Immortal Soldier
    Last edited by chipfsu301; 04-13-2009 at 09:35 PM. Reason: re-pharse

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipfsu301 View Post
    what would you recommended dose be of Proviron? etc Thanks Immortal Soldier
    50mgED

    A-dex is a much better all around AI, Proviron is more like masteron or winstrol in the way it combats estrogen than an actual AI.

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    50 mg everyday A-dex. which weeks and how long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipfsu301 View Post
    50 mg everyday A-dex. which weeks and how long?
    no 50mgED of proviron throughout your cycle

    If you do A-dex do .5mg ED or EOD through out your cycle

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    Proviron shouldnt be used to control estrogen.

    It is a welcome addition to a Test cycle however.

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    thanks WARMachine!!

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