is this a good beginner Cycle?

[boybetterknow]

Alryt Guys,

I have just started a cycle of dianabol - methandrostenolone - tablets i am having 30mg a day, and i have just started nandrolone decanoate norma at 200mg a week (2 jabs). i was wondering if i put sum test in cycle would that be to much (i have only been on them 4 a week) and if yes how much. cheers guys. (by the way i have done loads of research)

[jbm]

Stats?
Height?
Weight?
Age?
Body fat%?

[boybetterknow]

i am about 5 ft 7, weigh 144lbs and am 20 years of age

[boybetterknow]

o yea im also having 2 weight and muscle gaining shakes a day

[jbm]

IMO! You did not do tons of research.
1st you're still young for AAS and underweight for your height.
2nd first cycle should be Test E or Test C only.
What's Your PCT for this?
Thanks...

[Charger527]

i can foresee a post saying i cant get it up....

[jbm]

i can foresee a post saying i cant get it up....

lololol! hope not bro!

[Charger527]

Alryt Guys,

I have just started a cycle of dianabol - methandrostenolone - tablets i am having 30mg a day, and i have just started nandrolone decanoate norma at 200mg a week (2 jabs). i was wondering if i put sum test in cycle would that be to much (i have only been on them 4 a week) and if yes how much. cheers guys. (by the way i have done loads of research)

mate to be honest with you, if i was you i would stop this cycle and do some research.

[arsenal01]

i would wait a few more years mate you can still grow well with loads of healthy clean food and training well and with the deca and pills you should be running test

[boybetterknow]

why would you say trhat this is a bad cycle? if i put test cypitionate in it and take nolvadex wouldn/t it be ok i am eating 3,500 cals a day aswell

[jbm]

could you please post the exact cycle that you are planning, How many weeks, what's the test dosage, times of injections and your PCT.

what's your diet?

Cypionate not cypitionate

[boybetterknow]

http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle2.php

That is the exact cycle i am doing there.

[jbm]

Ok! If it's me I'll drop DECA it's not for 1st cycle. D-Bol it's up to you if you wanna kick start your cycle with this.

I think you still need to research more and if you could wait a couple more years, bro 20 is still young and you are underweight for your height.

I think you have a problem in your diet you're only 144lbs.

What's your Body Fat%

[mcinfifer24]

Agreed your natural test is still high use that and proper diet for now and wait a few years do some research and then cycle

[arsenal01]

You must stack Testo-Enanthate!

i dont agree with this you can do test by its own

[arsenal01]

i dont agree with this you can do test by its own

1 more thing dont forget you will need pct

[sigman roid]

if this is your first cycle i would forget what your doing a first cycle would be along the lines of 250mg test e shot twice a week so in total you would be using 500mg per week.forget the deca stick with a test only cycle imo.

[LATS60]

if this is your first cycle i would forget what your doing a first cycle would be along the lines of 250ml test e shot twice a week so in total you would be using 500ml per week.forget the deca stick with a test only cycle imo.

And being a newb to the game make sure you know the diff between mg and ml.

[sigman roid]

And being a newb to the game make sure you know the diff between mg and ml.

my heads in the clouds today i do apologise i did actually mean mg.

[boybetterknow]

ok thanks 4 the advice guys could i just ask why would you say get rid of the decca?

[boybetterknow]

o yea sigman roid, couldn't i use test c instead of test e? as i have already bought it??

[Reed]

Deca has been known to cause libido issues if you are not running any test. Now this can be person to person dependent but its best if you had some test.

May I ask how long you have been training. Why would you resort to drugs so young and soon... You must be pretty weak at 140lbs and to be on juice that makes it sad.

You must understand that your body is still growing at 20 and when adding in drugs too soon your joints and tendons will not be able to keep up with the strength and muscle gains which may incur serious problems. That is why it best to get up to respectable level naturally and then push the limits with steroids .

Also if you can't grow naturally what makes you think that once you come off if you do happen to grow on cycle that you are going to be able to keep the gains you made.

(I've seen some that don't grow on cycle b/c they haven't learned enough about dieting, training, and protocols of the two that work best for them)

[JACKEDnTan]

IMO Deca is not all its cracked up to be. i took it n the sides were not worth the reward. it effects everyone differently. Some love it, but not for the 1st timer. If your gonna do a cycle, do a 12 week cycle of test E or Cyp to see how your body reacts. get ur weight and deit up 1st. i was 19 wen i did my 1st cycle. that was a year ago and i was not educated at all. be smart and do your research and make sure that you know exactly wut your doing before your cycle. PCT is just as important as the rest of the cycle. Believe me KNOW YOUR SHIT! its not fun when u cant get a stiffy or look at a chick n feel like bonin

[boybetterknow]

yea i know that decca can cause problems downstairs and i no that u need to have test when taking it i was just wondering why not both on the first cycle?
2nd i have been training 4 6 months now, im not actually that weak i am quite toned actually an even at 140lbs i can still bench 70kg (sets and reps), also i know about diet but only in the last month or so, i have taken my calorie intake from 2000 to 3000 and am trying 2 push it up every week, ( i know about protein and that aswell), since i have been on the dianabol and decca, (only a week) i have put on 4lbs already so i think i will grow on the cycle especially not im having the test

[JACKEDnTan]

If you take both compounds and recieve some bad sides you wont know which one is causing it. all i can say is look at your family history. If all the males are 150 5'7ft then id say you have reached your genetic potential(most likely not). your gonna do what u want, but do it the right way.

[Reed]

No my friend there is more to diet than you probably realize......

You've been training for 4-6 months now.... thats absolutely nothing in the time of things. sorry you should have waited 2-3 years and trained natural before touching anything... There is no possible way you have learned your body and the way it reacts to training methods, training splits, etc in that amount of time.

and at least you can press just over your bodyweight....

i'd stop this cycle and do it right naturally cause you'll benefit in the long run.....

[boybetterknow]

cheers 4 the advie bro

[ganu]

cheers 4 the advie bro

deca and dbol can give amazing results at first..but you will loose it all since its mostly water..plus deca will shut your natural test production hence you need test.pct is a must if you need to save any of the gains..since you have started your cycle and still on the first week i suggest you stop the cycle, get proper test and pct inorder and then go ahead if you must..

[8iron]

If you take both compounds and recieve some bad sides you wont know which one is causing it. all i can say is look at your family history. If all the males are 150 5'7ft then id say you have reached your genetic potential(most likely not). your gonna do what u want, but do it the right way.

Also you can close your growth plates now that u have introduced them in to ur system, hope u like being 5' 7" Best of luck!!!!

[sigman roid]

o yea sigman roid, couldn't i use test c instead of test e? as i have already bought it??

yeah you can use test c if you already have it not a problem