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    New To The Game and Need Help

    Hey, I have been lifting for a long time (5 years) and have plateued out. I haven't made any significant gains in a long time. I tried sustanon once and it worked out ok but I had to stop a few weeks into it because my roommate found out and got all stupid about it. Anyway, my question is what is a good, simple starter cycle and any otherhelp would be great. (Sorry I didn't read therules first.) Again, this is thefirst time I have ever posted anything on the net. I am a certified computer illiterate person.
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    Welcome, please read the rules before you post again...

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    dude read the rules, your tags beginner, and buy = no no and if you noticed your post is cut out because you obviously didnt follow the rules that are meant to be followed, people will help you if you play by the rules if you dont cya

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    Wow....four minutes BIG...damn is that a record for the fastest edit?! LOL.....

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    Where can I read the rules at?

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    Thanks for the help. I apologize for that. Again, I never did nothin like this. So back to the topic at hand...

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    no worries bro we were all new here at some point.
    your stats don't look bad, you should drop the bf% a bit though.
    a good starter cycle is test e or test c at 500mg/week for 10-12 weeks, followed by a good pct.

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    Yeah I was thinkin to go with sus again and to stack it with dianabol in the beginning. I have a good size right now but my body fat is waaaay higher than I would like. I aminterested in putting on a few more pounds before I try to cut the fat. That is sort of why I was thinking of the sustanon . I was going to start out with either diana ordbol then halfway through start sus and ween off the other. So many choices. I have been researching this stuff forever. Just so hard. I swear i have ocd with details so its been real hard for me.

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    well you're way ahead of many by doing the research before you start. most here prefer a single-ester test to a blend. you need to run the test all the way through the cycle, regardless of which test you choose. don't start with dbol only then switch to test.

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    So maybe just try out the test E? Is is better than sustanon ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiknman1 View Post
    So maybe just try out the test E? Is is better than sustanon?
    sustanon is a blend of different test esters, most here prefer a single ester to a blend.

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    Well thanks for the help. I guess i'll try the test e. I just heard it makes you puffy andmakes you retain water badly. Thats the last thing I need. I wanted to gain just a little more size then start a cutting phase so maybe Iwill give it a try and then try winny or something after to cut down.

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    test e would not cause any more bloat than sust. follow a clean, low-sodium diet and drink plenty of water and bloat should be minimized, if it's an issue run arimidex at .25mg/eod.

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