No test in a cycle

[ganu]

I know test is a must in every cycle but what if someone does not want much sides and dont want a bulky look..can he go for a var only cycle...would a dbol alone cycle be any good once the water bloat diminishes..would an oral winny at short cycle do the trick.

[BEEF]

no dbol only , no winny only.
maybe , var bump for better anwsers how about tren only i do it and love it. besides not sleeping .

[johnnybigguns]

I definitely wouldn't do it.
Have you had sides from test before?
You can run a low dose.

[lord henry]

most will say orals only are a waste of time (dbol,drol,winny) var and tbol are ok to run as an oral only cycle,saying that i have seen guys make great lean gains with winny only cycles .

[johnnybigguns]

no dbol only , no winny only.
maybe , var bump for better anwsers how about tren only i do it and love it. besides not sleeping .

Tren only is definitely not a good idea and should never been given as advice.

[lord henry]

no dbol only , no winny only.
maybe , var bump for better anwsers how about tren only i do it and love it. besides not sleeping .

tren only cycle is not a good idea at all ,its the same as doing a deca only cycle (both 19nors)

[Big]

Var, tbol, and primo are about the only gear I would recommend without test, although personally I love the effects of test and would never cycle without it. Often someone who had severe side effects from test did something wrong which lead to the sides, test sides are easily manageable.

[british bulldog 1]

tri tren and d bol

[D7M]

tri tren and d bol

terrible advice.

OP, don't listen to this.

[Big]

tri tren and d bol

wtf?

[Big]

tri tren and d bol

I just took a moment to review your threads and posts, you have no business giving advice on a subject such as this.

[lord henry]

tri-tren is a mix of test and tren ? or is it a mix of tren e/a?

[Big]

tri-tren is a mix of test and tren ? or is it a mix of tren e/a?

it's a blend of 3 different tren esters, usually a, e, and hex.

[lord henry]

yuk^^^^^ totaly pointless compound imo,super unstable blood levals.

[Huge_guy]

I'm curious as to the sentiment here regards cycles with no testosterone.

I have a thread going here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=382953 which so far, no one has commented on.

I've had great (for me) results on Tri-Tren/Ultra-Tren + Stanazolol cycles up to 12 weeks in length in terms of substantial strength gains and not had any estrogen related complications but wondered whether I should really be using an SERM/AI whilst on, and what the best PCT is in such circumstances. Maybe it was just luck or my particular physiology that I never had to deal with any adverse issues?

I have avoided using testosterone because I figured why not just dispense with the estrogen related issues altogether by using non-aromatising compounds?

Maybe, in retrospect the recovery of my HPTA was slow, but not so much so that it was significantly noticeable...

Is it just me?

* Should I be using an anti-e?

* What should the PCT be?

* Would it be far more beneficial to add a testosterone?

Always keen to learn.

[vpchill]

What is the Best Oral only Cycle ?

[alpmaster]

What is the Best Oral only Cycle ?

100mg of stop-being-scared-of-needles, ED for about 12 weeks at least.

[chuckt12345]

i like winny only cycle,, works for me.

[RA]

What are your goals?

I know test is a must in every cycle but what if someone does not want much sides and dont want a bulky look..can he go for a var only cycle...would a dbol alone cycle be any good once the water bloat diminishes..would an oral winny at short cycle do the trick.

[chitownhoker]

i like winny only cycle,, works for me.

on a winny only cycle right now 50mg per day for 4 weeks...im 3 weeks deep...im pre contest and honestly cant tell if im on anything...but im not trying to gain on this, just harden up....i do have no libido, but people say that is also from dieting for so long.

so all in all, i wouldn't recomend a winny only cycle, but you can do it

[kdizzog]

I personally don't get anysides from test. A low dose and you will probably never feel anything.

[CJ.]

100mg of stop-being-scared-of-needles, ED for about 12 weeks at least.

[MMArmour]

Like Big said

Var, Primo, Tbol.

Those are reasonable alternatives.

Plenty of AR members use Tbol only cycles with success.