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04-15-2009, 11:23 AM #1
Absolute best bulking and cutting cycle?
What is your favorite choice of:
- Bulking cycle
- Cutting cycle
Stacking and no stacking, depends on what you like.
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04-15-2009, 11:26 AM #2
best cutter would be what i'm running now
1-12 prop 100mg/day
1-12 tren a 75mg/day
6-12 mast 100mg/day
this will be my 2nd time round with this cycle, awesome results 1st time
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04-15-2009, 11:29 AM #3
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04-15-2009, 11:45 AM #4
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A good diet.
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04-15-2009, 11:48 AM #6
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Just because a cycle or stack works for someone else doesn't mean its going to work for you. You need to experiment on your own. You haven't even given us your cycle experience. What is it ?
Stick with test 500mg shot 2x a week for 12 and see how it effects you. Stacking in the beginning is stupid IMO.
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04-15-2009, 12:22 PM #9
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Thats fine. I am just here to make it known that just because it works for one person doesn't mean its going to work for another.
I am just looking out for the noob that comes to this post, sees a stack, then says to himself "i am going to do this to get big."
Ain't gonna happen.
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04-15-2009, 12:40 PM #11
i completly see your point mate but does that mean we never discuss our best tried and tested cycles incase a noob reads and copys it? If the're gonna copy a cycle they could find 100s of awful cycles on this board, check out that craziest cycle thread by g force, interesting thread but some of the listed cycles are mental.
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04-15-2009, 01:06 PM #12
I haven't cycled, just looking for shits and kicks
Yep that I assume would be true since we are all different, but nonetheless it would be fun to see what different kinds of people love to do, ey
Spot on
There is enough bad posts on this board for that to happen anytime, I would not worry. If this post gets inputs on like stacks of three steroids , but reasonable dosages, those cycles would be better then much of the cycles people post here (those poeple asking to do a dbol cycle, and so on), you get the picture
Yep
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04-15-2009, 04:40 PM #13
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04-16-2009, 06:49 AM #14
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04-16-2009, 07:13 AM #15New Member
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04-16-2009, 07:18 AM #16
bulking...
any Test.
tren ran at 700mg
cutting...
any Test.
tren ran at 350mg
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04-16-2009, 07:27 AM #17
Last edited by manwitplans; 04-16-2009 at 07:30 AM. Reason: Shitty Freudian slip..
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04-16-2009, 08:41 AM #18
i usually run my test low when i run tren.
at about 350mg of test week, maybe 400
ive noticed i get less sides from the tren and still the same gains with lower test.
running the tren lower for cutting is basically all for mental reasons....
the tren will help keep your strength while your cutting. which we all know can suffer from lack of calories and shit loads of cardio.
it will also not cause any sides for most ppl at that dose. and the last thing you want when your cutting and starving and craving all those carbs ( i know i get miserable when im cutting) is dealing with the stress of sides.
also at higher doses of tren it really affects my cardio. walking up steps becomes a chore. so for cutting you dont need anything hindering your cardio sessions and making them harder.
and tren is just god like. it helps make me harder and keep fat off, and makes my veins pop out like whoa. so while your cutting all those are huge pluses
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04-16-2009, 08:46 AM #19
Can anyone help me out? What is best Oral only Cycle?
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04-16-2009, 08:54 AM #22
Thank you for Responding. My issue is there is so much crap out there I dont just wanna stick myself with garbage. Any suggestions? Whats the safest bet and in what cylce? Im looking to bulk a little then cut.
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04-16-2009, 08:56 AM #23
Good info there, thorough
So how is it doing two NOR`s? Adding sideeffects to the usual tren or deca side`s? I actually heard this cycle a couple of times and people just get freaky on this kind of cycle.
Yep, testostorone only 500mg per week.
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04-16-2009, 08:57 AM #24
testosterone only? Oral?
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04-16-2009, 08:58 AM #25Junior Member
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04-16-2009, 08:58 AM #26
If you can't get real injectable steroids , chances are that you won't get real orals either, and oral cycle is a bad idea, do your time in the research departments like many other smart AAS users have done, seriously you'll save yourself a world of hurt, nothing like a scawny mofo going on a dbol cycle and gaining 20 pounds of water and loosing all of it
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04-16-2009, 08:59 AM #27
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04-16-2009, 09:03 AM #28
thanks. i try
and running 2 19-nors doesnt mean it equals to deca sides on top of tren sides.
someone else on here explained it on the terms of... if tren has a 60 percent affect (for sides) and deca has a 20% affect... then running them both together wont equal 80%. it will still only equal 60
get me?
and yes... from everyone i know who has done it... running both together is supposed to be awesome. its actually what i have planned for my next bulker. just need the money. lol
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04-16-2009, 09:05 AM #29
Thanx, Ive been Researching day and Night. Not sure what and where are the scams. Just trying to get the safest, Most effective cycle. Im already 245lbs. Turned 30 and feel ive reached my plateau. I have no personell references to go by. No One I know (personally) works out as I do.
So its a little bit of a Vague area for me.
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04-16-2009, 09:09 AM #30
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04-16-2009, 09:12 AM #31
I would say if your looking for the safest (For your body) I would recommend a low dose testostorone (400-500mg per week), 10-12 weeks, good PCT and you'll be good to go.
Orals harm the body more then the injectables. Take for example dbol , it will lower your cholestrol (your good anyways) more then testostorone, and possibly damage your liver and your testo will be shot of and you won't have any of the hormone your gender is built in your bloodstream, you do the math.
Manup, do a real cycle, and none of the "steroids " on the internet are real (atleast 99,9% of them, so get contacts and do it in the realworld if your going to do it.
You've done research and you ask about oral only cycle, don't be messin with me now.
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04-16-2009, 09:21 AM #32
Lol. I am still learning. Didnt say I was a Professor, Im still a student
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04-16-2009, 10:02 AM #34New Member
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Hey guys been reading the forums for awhile but never posted anything before. I have a couple of questions about getting lean.
I'm 25, 5'6" and 155. My bf is around 10%. I can get it to Around 8% but I can't seem to keep it there due to the strict diet and intensity of the workouts.
My questions are:
1) Is there any particular roid I could stay on year round to boost my intensity in the gym and efficiency of the fat burning process? (My goal isn't to gain mass just maintain a lean six pack physique.)
2) Is there any legit HGH enhancers or are they all bogus?
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04-16-2009, 10:05 AM #35
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