Esters make my head spin

[BigIce]

Well just found out that I had been misunderstanding esters and there release of test since I begun educating myself on AAS.

Since going from Test Prop straight onto Test Enan is ok.

Prop kicks in way faster then Enan right ?
I know its a shorter ester and needs to be pinned ED or EOD
But in the beginning of a cycle its affects appear sooner or am I misunderstanding that one also.

I guess what got me is that I don´t really understand how Test E can reach peek levels in as short as 48 hours but still take 4-5 weeks to start affecting the user

Yeah I know, I need to do alot more reading, its just a bit too much to take in sometimes.

[johnnybigguns]

Check this thread out on esters

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355998

[BigIce]

Thanks man

Bookmarked that one

Still it does not explain why Test Prop gets us going in days but Enan in week 4-5

Test Enanthate has a half life of 10,5 days, how can it take 30-35 days to start working ?
And some say Prop starts to kick in in the first week.
I know we are all different and react differently to compounds so...

Also, what I don´t understand is that if one is running Propionate with a half life of 4.5 days and switches to Enanthate, how will it not give him lower blood levels the first week or so
I got told not to speak out my ass when I stated that it would hehehe

I´ll keep at it, one day I´ll be "Mr. Know it almost all "

[SilverTest]

ok , shorter esters make your blood levels stable in less time = it starts working sooner

longer esters , like enanthate , take longer to stabilize , although you should feel something as time progress , but you will feel EVERYTHING in 4 -6 weeks , cs thats when it stabilize.

[BigIce]

Does that not mean that if one would go from using only Prop to using only Enan that the blood levels would drop after the short Prop ester cleaves of and before the longer Enanthate starts to do its job.

Im not trying to say that what I was told is not true, Im just trying to get my head around this one

[DS21]

Does that not mean that if one would go from using only Prop to using only Enan that the blood levels would drop after the short Prop ester cleaves of and before the longer Enanthate starts to do its job.

Im not trying to say that what I was told is not true, Im just trying to get my head around this one

You are correct. If I was to switch from prop to enth I would run them both for 4-5 weeks then stop the prop and keep inj the enth. By this time the enth should start to kick in or stabalize.

[richtries]

Well just found out that I had been misunderstanding esters and there release of test since I begun educating myself on AAS.

Since going from Test Prop straight onto Test Enan is ok.

Prop kicks in way faster then Enan right ?
I know its a shorter ester and needs to be pinned ED or EOD
But in the beginning of a cycle its affects appear sooner or am I misunderstanding that one also.

I guess what got me is that I don´t really understand how Test E can reach peek levels in as short as 48 hours but still take 4-5 weeks to start affecting the user

Yeah I know, I need to do alot more reading, its just a bit too much to take in sometimes.

Having exactly the same debate in my head . . . . .

So the drug only really takes effect once you have achieved stable blood levels? And thats why you only notice effects of longer esters after approx a months time? Reason being prop is utilised more for shorter cycles since it stabilises quicker?

[BigIce]

Here, read Lats60´s reply

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=383744

He is asking my what the fucl< Im on about, It was all news to me, thats why I started this thread.

Maybe Im just that thick, but I still don´t understand how Test E can start to give its full affects in 48 hours if one already has high test levels, but takes anything from 4 to 6 weeks to do so when taken from the start of a cycle.

It can only mean that the Test level we have in the beginning of a cycle plays a key role in how this particular aas works within our body, or is it just me being thick again

[richtries]

i have responded to the above post to see if we can get some answers, put this to bed.