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  1. 04-22-2009, 05:49 PM #1
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    Exclamation relapse in gyno?

    aight bros,

    Early on in my cycle I developed a case of gyno and treated it. Until about two days ago everything was a-ok. Cycle still running, gaining. etc. But now I have this pain starting under my nipple. Opposite side as the last case. Now last time I had itchy nipples and they got really tender so I ran some letro the switched to adex and got it down to .25mg eod where I am currently at. So the other day it woke up to this pain under my nipple. No other side effects, just the pain. It is actually not under the nipple as in sub cutaneously, but in actual direction, meaning down towards the underside of my pec. It isnt all that noticeable unless i push on it or press the specific area. Well, now upon my extensive investigations, I have found a swollen spot. Kind of a knot but not very hard. My question is: Should i start to run some letro or nolva just as a prevention Is this really gyno again?! If so what would you guys run in the way of dosage this time? I am currently on test cyp and deca and running 100mg/wk of anadrol. I know the debates on nolve with deca but I dobnt buy it. I have also been told that nolvadex wont cure gyno bu tI have read Warmachines post and it sure seems that evidence is goign the other way! HELP ME OUT HERE BOYS.......
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  2. 04-22-2009, 06:16 PM #2
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    If you're experiencing gyno symptoms/ and have had in the past it wouldn't hurt to run an AI.. If adex worked in the past why not use it again
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  3. 04-22-2009, 06:17 PM #3
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    How long have you been on cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD22 View Post
    If you're experiencing gyno symptoms/ and have had in the past it wouldn't hurt to run an AI.. If adex worked in the past why not use it again
    no, if he were going to run adex he should have run it from the beginning. its a preventative, not a cure

    you basically have 2 choices right now OP, run letro and try to reverse it now, or ake the chance of using nolva to prevent the estrogen frome getting worse and/or binding to the receptors.... JMO

    id wait for WARmachine to shed some light and come to the rescue on this though
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  5. 04-22-2009, 08:08 PM #5
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    If gyno has developed, youre shit outta luck.

    Its its just begining to develop, you have a shot.

    I wouldnt take Nolva with Caber since youre running Deca.

    Letro is ok cause it will control further estrogen, but it wont block the receptors in the breast tissue, and it certainly wont do anything for whats been developed.
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    Does this sound like its gyno to you War? The location is what is throwing me off.
    It is just beginning if it is gyno. Like I said just started up again like two days ago. It actually kind of feels like a pain on a bone or something, No nipple soreness itchyness hell anything. I do have some pubescent gyno in the form of puffy nipples anyway. when they get erect all looks good but when they are realxed it shows. I guess I just dont know if this is actually gyno this time. its in such a wierd location. Almost under the pec. and the pain is not directly below the nipple kinda offset to the center of my chest. What doseage would you run the caber at? I started the nolva this afternoon at 20mg just for good measure.
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  7. 04-23-2009, 01:41 AM #7
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    All About Caber
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    Read that for Caber info.

    Idk what it is bro. It sounds like it could be gyno, but if its not behind the nipple im not sure. No itchyness or tingling? Is the bump tender to the touch?
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  8. 04-23-2009, 01:45 AM #8
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    plz could someone take a look at the cycle im about to begin. i need ur opinion on it. just started a thread bout it. Thx !
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayquaza View Post
    plz could someone take a look at the cycle im about to begin. i need ur opinion on it. just started a thread bout it. Thx !
    impressive marketing for ur thread. lol
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  10. 04-23-2009, 08:03 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post
    All About Caber
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    Read that for Caber info.

    Idk what it is bro. It sounds like it could be gyno, but if its not behind the nipple im not sure. No itchyness or tingling? Is the bump tender to the touch?
    it is no where near behind the nipple. Thats what is throwing me way off. Its not even on my peck. its under it. There was no symptoms leading up to it, not any itching or soreness, no tingling.
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    take the any of the two get that shit down...the tenderness will go away too just make sure you take it before it gets to sserious....if it is gyno u can take two finger and sorta massage it if it is a lump like a mass it can only be removed by surgery....but still take the nolv see how far down u can get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan ^ View Post
    it is no where near behind the nipple. Thats what is throwing me way off. Its not even on my peck. its under it. There was no symptoms leading up to it, not any itching or soreness, no tingling.


    Doesnt sound like gyno then. Perhaps you should get a MRI?
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    hes right
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    I am going to the doc to er on the side of caution. There is this lump forming now. It is noticable sometimes but not always though. Plus it wasn't there until very recently. Can gyno grow that fast? If it is gyno...? I just have never heard how fast gyno actually takes to grow. I assumed it would take longer and be more gradual. Like I said, going to the doc now. I'll see what he says.
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    Post what the doctor says.

    Tell him you need an a screening.

    Also, if he asks, id be truthful in using AAS.
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  16. 04-23-2009, 05:21 PM #16
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    When you say it is noticable now, do you mean on the skin or noticable to your touch?

    I remember one time I thought I was getting gyno. Sensitive nipple, a little lump was forming, itching. The funny part is it turned out to be a big a$$ pimple, and that is why I ask if you mean noticable on the skin. I seriously doubt that gyno would form a bump on your lower pec/rib area, but I think it is a good call to get it checked.
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    Ok fellas here's the scoop....let me start by saying my doc already knew I am using AAS and is really cool about it. He even helps with PCT drugs and bloodwork, etc. So I tell him the issue, he looks at it feels it and says "not gyno" he feels the opposite side as well and says "you have the same thing on this side it's just not as big". So of course my next question is "what the **** is it and why is it hurting?" he says " looks to be a swollen lymph gland or irritated nerve duct". Whew!!! He says let's watch it and see if it gets better or worse. I am still a bit concerned but not nearly like I was!!! He also did some bloodwork just to make all is well.
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    did he recommend anything to reduce it?
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    No but he did say that it is probably somehow linked to the AAS. He said that if it got worse or didn't start to get better then he'd look at treatment options.


    Thanks guys for all the opinions. Also big thanx to War for the help and advice. I really appreciate it.
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