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after seeing another death supposedly due to steroid use on the news it got me thinking how much it would actually take to kill yourself?
obvioulsy the weight size and general healthof the person would affect the dose required.
also interested in the highest dosages you personally have taken?
I'm doing 600mg of test e every 3 days
been using for 10 years and have never gone over 600 mgs/week of Test
more is NOT needed to make great gains
that works out at 1400mgs a week. how long have you been doing that for? and how long you got left?
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Originally Posted by T-MOS
is that just with test? if you take one of your cycles, what is the total mg of gear you do a week?
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by T-MOS
I've run 1g p/wk before and honestly there wasn't much of a diff from 750mg/wk. So IMO I basically wasted gear I could have saved for my following cycle.
current cycle now isQuote:
Originally Posted by joey-1988
Test @ 525/week
Deca @ 400/week
I am currently 5'11" and bulking. todays weigh in was 265 and under 18 %
you don't need tons of gear to grow !!!
5'11 265. under 18%. =JACKED LMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by T-MOS
DAMNNNN SOMEDAY....
i realise that. as i said i am just interested in how much people have taken and how much it would take to kill someone
Steroids dont kill people... MORONS WHO ABUSE THEM WILL EVENTUALLY DIE FROM THE MISUSE....
Meaning... don't mistake 50mg Anadrol for 5 mg Dbol and end up taking what you think is 50mgs of DBOL and it turns out to be 500mgs of DROL... that could surely kill you.
Know your SOURCE !! Because you could get tainted sh1t and that could result in a MRSA infection that they cant stop and kill and that will kill you.
IF YOU USE YOUR BRAIN... YOU WONT DIE.
Total mg of gear p/wk?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey-1988
I think the most overall was:
Prop 200mg/eod
EQ 600mg/wk
Deca 200mg/wk
So 1400 to 1600 I guess.
I was also 280-290 at the time.
**I know you didn't ask me but I figured I would share my experiences as well here. :aaGreen22
What we are getting to here is... To take this amount this often... if we were to say it would take 2000 mg a week to kill you.... I guarantee 99.9% of people asking the question would try and take 1999mg in a week because the want quick and rapid results. Which as stated. You don't need more then 600 a week to see gains. but hey its your body.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey-1988
Steroids=illegal.. The guy who died of an overdose didn't leave us the exact amount he took to kill himself.. And kept it to himself. ROFL
1200mg a wkQuote:
Originally Posted by joey-1988
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Originally Posted by chevrolet02z28
this is not my intention!!!
its just an interest
my mistake mate. i see what you meant nowQuote:
Originally Posted by 408gt91
much appreciatedQuote:
Originally Posted by TheReturn
:asskiss: haha jkQuote:
Originally Posted by chevrolet02z28
Has ther ever been any deaths that were soley linked and related straight from AAS use?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey-1988
I think that the dosage is dependent on the individual. I know that my friend was doing about 1500mg a week and he said it was pretty intense
By Intense what do you mean??
I have been on 1250 mgs per week and didnt notice any difference between that or 750mgs per week. I wont ever do that again... waste o gear IMO.
i never used alot ive been using for over 10 years .the most ive ever taken is 600mg deca and 300 mg test in a week ..with deca i did a 18 week cycle and i got my weight up to 305..i maintain right now 5'11 ,253 @ 10 % i must admit that ive been using 1 iu of gh for the last 10 years that ive never come off and i must admit i believe is the reason i make big gains and maintain them ..gh is the sh8t ..i love it
1 IU ... EVERY DAY?? WEEK??
And just 1 iu?? Really?? Doc prescribed?? Or just something you decided to do.
thank you for your comments people
just 1 i.u 6 days a week ..i decide to be more conservative than the 3 i.u suggested ..IMO research has proven that more is not always better especially when you not deficient in that hormone .Quote:
Originally Posted by The Deuce
this is also something i would like to know whicj is why i said "supposably linked to steroids".Quote:
Originally Posted by ****
i know this is a very grey area and if you research on the internet for this you get alot of "cocktail" deaths that included steroids
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Originally Posted by mrdieselone
I might just give that a try. GH has always SCARED THE SH1T out of me... I would hate to have a side of elongation of the feet,hands,elbows,jaw,forehead... or to cause possible hidden tumors to rapidly grow... I dunno...
I should know none of this is ever gonna happen to me as long as I do it correctly but i have heard the minimum is 3 iu's 5 on 2 off. I know I need to do a lot more research before I ever use it but it's good to know someone has had good results off 1 iu 6 days on 1 off. It just gives me something else to ponder and think about and give some thought on doing in the future... maybe when I cruise after this cycle... I am cruising for 6 months and well after 6 months I should know if it is going well for me or not... and plus at that dose I can afford to run it. Real GH tends to get real real expensive...
But thanks for letting me know your history with it... it will help determine what I decide to go with. Much appreciated.
I am going to say no. Meaning I have never read anything that states "Steroids use killed this person". However, there are many deaths in what you could call that 'grey' area. As an example: Lyle AlzadoQuote:
Originally Posted by ****
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Hey bro if you don't mind me asking what other benefits have you noticed from the gh I am getting real serious about jumping on.
Sorry op didn't mean to thread hijack. I don't really know how much it takes to kill someone and I hope to never find out. I have always had great gains as a natty but now that I'm getting older stupid body don't wanna work right anymore LOL. So I am happy keeping doses mild and enjoy my ride:aaGreen22
generally a feeling of well being and its very easy to maintain low body fat..and when you eat dense calorie foods ..its almost like anything you eat just fuels your body to build muscle..when i first started i use to eat anything that moved ,i mean i would eat 4-6000 cal days ..of basically sh8t food.... fast food ,candy ..etc ..i noticed how it elevated my metabolism and just help me pack on muscle while i was losing fat ..Quote:
Originally Posted by gymnerd
now it also helps in control of cholest and blood pressure and a list of other stats..i noticed those the most because i was eating crap for the first 2 years and the stats where perfect..as ive got older i just keep my diet clean and it helps the results even more..like i said i love the sh8t!!!
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Originally Posted by mrdieselone
Thats a good endorsment bro. And with all the sales going on freinds it is even more tempting LOL.
np brother ..yea the whole you're gonna look like lee haney and have a huge gap between your front teeth is a mothers tale ..i think you will be pleasantly surprised how much it will enhance your training..and i always ..get the real shit ..and yea it costs more..but honestly i couldnt give a sh8t..how much it costs ..its my body and i only have one..so what goes into my machine is only premium sh8T!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Deuce
you just take the gh alone or do you add such things like cytomel (T3) insulin ?
You cannot overdose on steroids if done correctly, dieing from steroid abuse is not the same as overdose. Overdose is in one specific time peroid (ie one shot or in several hours) only way you can die is if you pump enough oil/gear into a vein and cause cardiac arrest.
Oral steroids you can die from cirrhosis of the liver if take in extreme dosages it causes the liver bile to back up and the liver shuts down, the blood doesn't get cleansed and eventually the liver begins to disintegrate as the organs start failing. Read a story written by a guy who had this happen to him he barely survived lost around 100lbs and took 2-3 years for him to be able to fully recover, he only took one oral steroid for about a week before it happened, I think it was caused by the fact that the steroid was dosed way higher than the appropriate limits. For example, there are reports where UGL's have been caught dosing dbol in the 500mg range, scary to think.
you wouldnt have enough gear or a large enough syringe to od on gear. generally, people who die from steroids dont actually die from the steroids, they die from having a pre-existing condition such as hart problems or cholesterol. other than that it will be pretty difficult to pull off.
no i havent ever used t3 or insulin..the thing with gh is you have to stick with it for the long haul..everyone wants results within the hour ..Quote:
Originally Posted by eckstg
High doses of test arent good for your heart...in most cases your wasting gear and doing damage to your body.
Yea from your comments i was thinking of giving gh a try at 1iu a day for probaly a year solid but not so sure 1iu a day would yeild any results.But you say the 1 iu for you has given good results?Also wanted to be clear if you used anything else with it like insulin or t3 like it says in its profiles should be great additions.I would be using aas about 6 months of the year along with the 1iu.Probaly a couple 12week cycles of 50mg tren ace and 50mg test prop ed for the first 6 weeks but the final 6 weeks would only be 100mg day prop ed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdieselone
Seems gh would be awesome for fat loss and help with muscle growth along with the aas.So you think the 1 iu was well worth it and does a good enough job at that dose?
absolutely ..gh is awesome..and over last ten years ive run about 8 cycles .and IMO it maintains gains..inbetween cycles....ive actually cycled only test gel with the gh and it gets me great results..so i dont doubt ..the additioinal gains you would get from adding some t3..and of course your cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by eckstg
you're gonna love it....
my 2 cents on your source ,... make sure u get quality .ive never ..fallen short on quality ..which has always been a good motto for me and ..make sure i get the results..
Currently after a quick glance at 3 different sources that claim to carry hgh this is what they say their brands are and cost:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdieselone
#1 Peptropin rhGH 191aa roughly $3 per iu
#2 Blue Tops $3.00 per iu., 600iu min
#3 Growth AA (Syntrom) 425.00 for 100iu
I know hgh is wildly couterfeited with hcg and would hate to be ripped at such an expensive product so is their any tips youd give to look for in a source to help with telling if their likly carrying the real deal or not?
ive get mine legit way ..and i pay 6 times more per unit than the average ..but i dont care as it my only body ..as for these 3 ..companies..i am not familiar with, but lets get some of the veterans on the site ,my have a better insight into the value of these..as i stressed before ..make sure its quality ..and the source it solid ..Quote:
Originally Posted by eckstg