Red Flag!!! Winstrol Seperation??

**gr8gear** · 04-24-2009, 10:29 AM

its been a while since my last post. glad to be back!

that being said, I recently purchased a box (10 Bottles) of Stanoplex 50 Inject from an overseas supplier, whom I have dealt with for years. The mixture is very cloud when still, and needs to be shaken before used. Is this drastic of seperation normal?

Also, I purchased 23G 1" syringes, but cannot load the winstrol into this syringe. My next step was to get a larger guage needle, so I upgraded to an 18g 2" syringe. The winstrol loads in the 18g, but is very painful to inject. Its so f**king big, its like jabbing a sharp straw into your ass cheek. Should the stanoplex 50 inject load in a 23G syringe? Im pretty sure I have done it in the past.

Any advise will be appreciated.

**Polska** · 04-24-2009, 12:30 PM

Yes separation is normal. However you should be able to draw with a 23g no problem. It is water based

**wannabebig11** · 04-24-2009, 01:26 PM

i draw all my stuff up with an 18 and then inject with a 21-23 depending on what it is. just a thought.

**scerpico22** · 04-24-2009, 02:19 PM

i had some winny that separated while siting upright for awhile...shack it up and you should be GTG.

drawing form a 23g...shit, ive drawn winny from a 25g and have been fine with NP.

you say 10 bottles...are they amps or 20 or 50cc bottles?

**hero717** · 04-24-2009, 03:00 PM

seperation is good sign...it is suppose to do that...but roll them out shake the shit out of them cause thats ur problem..why u can't draw it out u probibliby have clumps clogging up ur needle...its water based u should be able to draw it with a insulin needle if u want..

**gr8gear** · 04-30-2009, 12:30 PM

*****AL Stanoplex 50 Inject*********USER BE CAREFUL**************

Due to extreme pain in the location of the first shot, i switched up injection sites. In both new sites, the area became very very hard and turned bright red. On the fourth shot, i decided to go with the quad. Shot was virtually painless, however 24 hours later my leg blew up from my knee to my groin. The pain was so bad, I could not even walk. This was Sunday April 26th. Pain and swelling was so bad that I had to see a doctor. I have been out of work all week, and am just getting back the ability to walk without extreme pain. All areas that were injected are still red, lumpy (hard) and painful. I have been prescribed to heavy dosages of antibiotics to fight off possible infection!

I have decided to have the winny tested, because I want to know what I put into my body. I have run cycles in the past and have never experienced any problems. I will be sure to post the results on every site possible!

**SnaX** · 04-30-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by gr8gear

*****AL Stanoplex 50 Inject*********USER BE CAREFUL**************

Due to extreme pain in the location of the first shot, i switched up injection sites. In both new sites, the area became very very hard and turned bright red. On the fourth shot, i decided to go with the quad. Shot was virtually painless, however 24 hours later my leg blew up from my knee to my groin. The pain was so bad, I could not even walk. This was Sunday April 26th. Pain and swelling was so bad that I had to see a doctor. I have been out of work all week, and am just getting back the ability to walk without extreme pain. All areas that were injected are still red, lumpy (hard) and painful. I have been prescribed to heavy dosages of antibiotics to fight off possible infection!

I have decided to have the winny tested, because I want to know what I put into my body. I have run cycles in the past and have never experienced any problems. I will be sure to post the results on every site possible!

Holy crapola, that is terrible. Sorry to hear that!

Post a pic of your gear on the pic forum so it may be inspected as well.
(Be sure to edit out the lab name of course.)

**inky-e** · 04-30-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by gr8gear

its been a while since my last post. glad to be back!

that being said, I recently purchased a box (10 Bottles) of Stanoplex 50 Inject from an overseas supplier, whom I have dealt with for years. The mixture is very cloud when still, and needs to be shaken before used. Is this drastic of seperation normal?

Also, I purchased 23G 1" syringes, but cannot load the winstrol into this syringe. My next step was to get a larger guage needle, so I upgraded to an 18g 2" syringe. The winstrol loads in the 18g, but is very painful to inject. Its so f**king big, its like jabbing a sharp straw into your ass cheek. Should the stanoplex 50 inject load in a 23G syringe? Im pretty sure I have done it in the past.

Any advise will be appreciated.

Yes its normal and are you fukkin crazy?? 18g to shoot??? I use that only to draw....you should be able to draw with the 25 bro.

**gr8gear** · 05-01-2009, 01:04 PM

i will post pics......my bigger concern is the scar tissue from the injection. what can i do do get rid of the lumps?

**gr8gear** · 05-01-2009, 01:46 PM

also, would cutting the winstrol with bacteriostatic water dilute the shot so it can be loaded in a 25g syringe?

**inky-e** · 05-01-2009, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by gr8gear

i will post pics......my bigger concern is the scar tissue from the injection. what can i do do get rid of the lumps?

Bro I strongly urge you to stop using the 18g to shoot...any winstrol that I've ever used I was able to easily draw with a 23g....

**higherdesire** · 05-01-2009, 04:23 PM

I use tabs just because of how painful winny is bro. Seperation is completely normal. As stated above you should roll it back and forth in your hands and then shake it drastically prior to drawing it up. It is water based and should draw easily. Not sure about your swelling though. What did the dr say about that? And how mucha re you taking and how often?

**Hazard** · 05-01-2009, 04:37 PM

just drink it LOLOLOL

~Haz~

**roserose** · 05-01-2009, 04:41 PM

Yes. When it sits for a while its almost completely separated.

RA · 05-01-2009, 04:55 PM

Your shooting with 18g???? Draw with 18 shoot with 23 or 25.

**gr8gear** · 05-05-2009, 09:00 AM

Drew with 18..........shot with 23. What a difference. Still a little difficult shooting, so I have been cutting the shot with bacteriostatic water......actually helps with pain also.

thanks

**gr8gear** · 06-03-2009, 11:26 AM

So after a few weeks of shooting with 23g, the outcome is same. I was rotating ass cheeks every other shot, because i wouldnt dare go for the quad or shoulder after my first doctor's visit. I have dealt with pain from the Winny amps before (which was like a small bruise), but the pain from the Stanoplex 50 is unbearable! I purchased 10 vials, 3 different batch #'s and the outcome is the same from each different batch. The pain is like getting hit by a 90mph fastball. The site becomes extremely large (approx 4-5" in diameter) and stiff. I could actually grab the lump with my fingers and move it. After each injection, I massaged with Topicort for 10 or so mins. Lumps do not go away for several days and I have the agility of a 90yr old.

I have spoke to a few other people i know using Stanoplex, and they have discontinued for the same reason. I have been extremely happy with the AL gear, just not with this product. I was told that the quality of gear from ug suppliers has been dropping greatly as a result of piss poor quality control on Chinese raw materials and powders.

**MR10X** · 06-03-2009, 11:56 AM

I have used a 29ga insulin surynge before but mine is the real thing. It does seperate but mixes back when you shake it. Suspension steroids dont mix with the water,it just stays in suspension for a little while.

**chuckt12345** · 06-03-2009, 12:39 PM

ill never shoot winny,, to many horror stories

**ninesecz** · 06-03-2009, 05:34 PM

why bother shooting it when you can take tabs and just swollow the depot

**CJ.** · 06-03-2009, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

I have used a 29ga insulin surynge before but mine is the real thing. It does seperate but mixes back when you shake it. Suspension steroids dont mix with the water,it just stays in suspension for a little while.

^+1 I have used 29ga 1/2" needles with water based winni with no problems, absolutely painless. I have heard stories of the powder clumping and blocking the needle up. If it's pharm grade stanozolol you should have no problems.

**gr8gear** · 06-05-2009, 08:03 AM

yeah...........thats the problem with stanzolol........pharm grade can be hard to get. UG's are using these chinese powders that are subpar (not to say all powder from china is bad).

I went to doctor and he is treating it for a staph infection......gave me antibiotics.

**Drew2U** · 06-10-2009, 03:50 PM

Hey gr8gear, thanks to your post, I was able to learn about the Stano 50. I got three vials and took three shots before I began to realize that the injection pain was greater than it should have been. I've had site pain before and it always got better, this didn't, in fact, it got worse...much worse. I too developed hard, painful knots in both glutes. My fifth and final shot was last Sunday afternoon about 1pm. About a half hour later my body was racked with severe chills that took about an hour to get over.

Monday, I read this post and you provided me with some valuable knowledge.

I am on an antibiotic as well and I'm finally getting some relief from that crap.
I want to thank you for posting your experience on here as it has helped me tremendously.

Please continue to keep us informed of your recovery.

Orals, here I come.

**gr8gear** · 06-12-2009, 07:59 AM

Thats what this forum is all about man.......i know exactly what you are going through. I am going to PM you, as I am interested to see what batch #'s you had. Best of luck!

**garbageman18** · 06-12-2009, 10:58 AM

why dont you meet in the middle and use a 22 gauge

**skinnykenney** · 06-12-2009, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by wannabebig11

i draw all my stuff up with an 18 and then inject with a 21-23 depending on what it is. just a thought.

this seems to work well for me also

**gr8gear** · 12-30-2009, 09:04 AM

BUMP.............apparently im not the only one. Interesting read over at Body of Science

http://www.*************.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=6306

Also google their **** Labs Test Results.

**redz** · 12-30-2009, 09:09 AM

I have used that stuff and I had alot of trouble getting it through a 22G pin. Sometimes I could do it other times it would get stuck. The times it did go through it fired through instantly because it was stuck then finally got through. I wont use injectable winny again. It was also brutally painful and left lumps for days on end.