Tren question, conflicting info...

[Knockout_Power]

ok, so I was reading up on Tren in the profiles section...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199832

and noticed some conflicting info regarding the estrogenic sides...

Trenbolones chemical structure makes it resistant to the aromatize enzyme (conversion to estrogen) thus absolutely no percentage of trenbolone will convert to estrogen. Trenbolone administration would not promote estrogenic side effects such as breast tissue growth in men (gynecomastia, bitch tits) accelerated fat gain, decline in fat break down and water retention trenbolone. Trenbolone is also resistant to the 5- alpha-reductase enzyme, this enzyme reduces some steroid hormones into a more androgenic form, in trenbolones case however this does not matter, trenbolone boasts an androgenic ratio of 500, it can easily cause adverse androgenic side effects in any steroid.com members who are prone cases of hair loss, prostate enlargement, oily skin and acne have been reported. Unfortunately trenbolones potential negative side effects do not end there. Trenbolone is also a noted progestin: it binds to the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone (with about 60% of the actual strength progesterone) (17). In sentitive steroid.com members this can lead to bloat and breast growth worse still, trenbolones active metabolite17beta-trenbolone has a binding affinity to the progesterone receptor (PgR) that is actually greater than progesterone itself (18). No need to panic though, the anti-estrogens letrzole or fulvestrant can lower progesterone levels, and combat any progestenic sides. The use of a 19-nor compound like trenbolone also increases prolactin…. bromocriptine or cabergoline are often recommended to lower prolatin levels (20). Testicular atrophy (shrunken balls) may also occur; HCG used intermittently throughout a cycle can prevent this. (21) It is also wise for Tren users to closely monitor their cholesterol levels, as well as kidney function and liver enzymes, as Tren has the potential to negatively affect all of those functions. Trenbolone, being a powerful progestin, will also shut down natural testosterone production which even a relatively small dose and keep the testosterone level suppressed for an extended period of time, this can lower libido and cause erectile dysfunction (fina dick). It is essential that you always stack trenbolone with testosterone.


So which one is it? Never used Tren myself but I plan to in about 9 months from now so Im gathering as much info as possible and this will probably help others new to Tren.

thanx,

KP

[Big]

ok, so I was reading up on Tren in the profiles section..

and noticed some conflicting info regarding the estrogenic sides...

That's not really conflicting info regarding estrogenic sides, it's talking about 2 different things, estrogen sides and progesterone sides.

[Knockout_Power]

ok, thanks Big, Maybe too much reading and my mind was going numb. Just trying to grasp all the ANC's usage for a proper cycle

[Big]

no worries bro. I just keep bromo or caber on hand for possible progesterone sides.

[jamyjamjr]

caber is great...

fcukin gives you an amazing hard on too..

enjoy

[JiGGaMaN]

poorly written.

[Immortal Soldier]

I am on 670mg/week of Tren ace so far and have yet to have use my pharmacuetical bromo. *knocks on wood*

I might start though since my erections are getting softer compared to earlier on in the cycle, could be a rise in progesterone levels. Other than that everything else is fine, I don't know if I should jump on the bromo yet since it does have some pretty harsh side effects.

[Knockout_Power]

seems like I can get Bromo easier than Caber, is it just as good? Besides the erection +'s from Caber

[_CrossroadS_]

cialis helps...

[hugovsilva]

seems like I can get Bromo easier than Caber, is it just as good? Besides the erection +'s from Caber

I am sure Bromo will give you the erections since it works just the same way as caber (D2 dopamine receptors agonist), only caber is much stronger at supressing prolactin and usually comes with less sides.

[Knockout_Power]

ok, thanx. I'll try for caber, keep the bromo on the shelf as 2nd measure