test-e/deca/dbol cycle....

[chopper9451]

alright gonna start my second cycle pretty soon. my last was test-e 700/week with no sides and good gains.

This time thinking about going with a test-e 500/week, deca, and dbol to kick it. 12weeks with a 4 week pct. What does you think i should run the deca and the debol? dbol for first two weeks only?

[CHUCKYthentic]

before we can help you correctly, could you give us some current stats?

age
height
weight
bf%
training experience

[chopper9451]

sorry bros! 25years, 6', 185lbs, 12%, training for 7 years

[fresh31]

hows your diet? and if you're 185 now how much were you before you took your first cycle?

[CHUCKYthentic]

alright, well have that diet and training in check and you can make some great gains. id run that cycle like this

1-4 dbol 40mg ED (split into 3-4 doses throughout day)
1-12 test e 500-600mg/week ( split into 2 doses 3.5 days apart)
1-10 deca 500mg/week (same inject sched as test e)

week 14 start pct

what pct regimine do you have lined up?
plan on having any cabergoline on hand for the deca?

[chopper9451]

Diet is in check. started 172lbs before first cycle. went to 195lbs now im down to 185-187.

[chopper9451]

pct... nolva and clomid. letro on harnd for gyno

[CHUCKYthentic]

what doses you runnin them at?
howd you recover after your last pct?

id throw an AI like aromasin or adex into that pct
also have caber on hand

[chopper9451]

recovered good with pct from last cycle. nuts are back but libido is still a little low. never got any sides at all

[CHUCKYthentic]

if you re wondering about caber, read this man. ill always use caber when running a 19nor like deca or tren now!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=356499

[CHUCKYthentic]

how long has it been since your last cycle? when you startin this cycle?

libido could be low if you just got out of that last cycle or due to some excess estrogen since you didnt have an AI in that pct

[fresh31]

only kept around half your gains? something isn't right imo. but sounds like you don't care to figure out what it is, so chucky told u the best way to do it.

[chopper9451]

i figured keep half my gains was about right. maybe on the low end but not too bad. Also i have low nat test levels

[fresh31]

very low end. how are you so sure your diet is in check bro? your extremely light for your height low nat test or not. especially since you cycled once already

[roserose]

How can you run 700mg/wk of test-e a week with no side effects. Its just not possible.

[chopper9451]

only side i got was nut shrink

[CHUCKYthentic]

i agree with the fact that only keeping half or your gains is not good. i mean especially off of 700mg test for a 1st cycle.... you gained good weight

i disagree that he is "small" i mean not everyone want to be 230 lbs

chopper, you didnt answer my Q about how long ago did your last cycle end? when u plan on starting nxt cycle?

this is very important

[fresh31]

that's true but do you agree that he can be 200 lbs natural?

Also if he didn't want to gain weight why take two cycles to bulk not trying to argue but realistically speaking he shouldn't have needed steroids to get to 185 lbs...

[CHUCKYthentic]

that's true but do you agree that he can be 200 lbs natural?

Also if he didn't want to gain weight why take two cycles to bulk not trying to argue but realistically speaking he shouldn't have needed steroids to get to 185 lbs...

i absolutely agree with you on both points

he hasnt told us what his goals are though. but yes, if you re gonna take bulking agents, then BULK! LOL

[chopper9451]

chucky my last cycle was about 5 months ago. and i have always been on the skinny side. came out of highschool at 6' tall and 140lbs. took me a lot of diet and training to get to 175. My goal is to bulk. after i finnish this second cycle I am gonna run clen for a couple weeks and that should good for a while

[hankdiesel]

chucky my last cycle was about 5 months ago. and i have always been on the skinny side. came out of highschool at 6' tall and 140lbs. took me a lot of diet and training to get to 175. My goal is to bulk. after i finnish this second cycle I am gonna run clen for a couple weeks and that should good for a while

When run clen when you're already thin and trying to bulk?