Help with cycle

[wants2Bhuge]

ok guys i need ur help

been searching for days and days on here, just joined today and ready to use gear. I just can't figure out which ones for how long Edited i red the sticky threads abut they confuse me. i really want to get started cause you know summer is almost here and the babes are waiting
i was a personal trainer for 3 years so i got the gym and eating down pretty good i just am ready to break my plateaus and put on some clean size
any help will be appreciated Edited , thanx

[jamyjamjr]

age
weight
height
bf
training history

and post up a diet of what you eat...

these answers will help us steer u in the right direction

[T-MOS]

^^^ What he said !!

[8iron]

i wouldnt say moneys no object your just asking to get scammed..........

[wants2Bhuge]

22, 5'9" ,180, 9%bf

lifting for 4 years, personal trainer for last 3, diet is in check as been trainer and eat 6-8 clean meals a day, just having hard time putting on new muscle now, seems i hit plateau
diet is basically egg, egg whites, oatmeal for breakfast, then chicken breast and rice , then PWO shake, then tuna and plain potato, then chicken breast and veggies with rice, then usually cottage cheese before bed.........i change things up and have a steak or fish or other seafood and have a cheat meal once a week or less

thanx for the help

[wants2Bhuge]

i wouldnt say moneys no object your just asking to get scammed..........

sorry, i meant within reason, i am just in a hurry to be bigger for the summer, i am already pretty cut, now I need size since i am not 2 tall

[8iron]

sorry, i meant within reason, i am just in a hurry to be bigger for the summer, i am already pretty cut, now I need size since i am not 2 tall

no need for sorry, just want you to be carful......ur in good hand with jammy and tmos

[jamyjamjr]

22, 5'9" ,180, 9%bf

lifting for 4 years, personal trainer for last 3, diet is in check as been trainer and eat 6-8 clean meals a day, just having hard time putting on new muscle now, seems i hit plateau
diet is basically egg, egg whites, oatmeal for breakfast, then chicken breast and rice , then PWO shake, then tuna and plain potato, then chicken breast and veggies with rice, then usually cottage cheese before bed.........i change things up and have a steak or fish or other seafood and have a cheat meal once a week or less

thanx for the help

ur food choices seem sound... and based upon your bf your doing something right...

i think the culprit is that your not eating ENOUGH...
any time i hear the word platue, especialy at your stats.. i think diet...

u mind doing some math for me??
Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )



once you have that number, you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

[fresh31]

yeah bro don't even imply that you want to get sources, you'd get scammed and if you ask for it directly possibly banned from the forums. do a lot of research before thinking about roids. you might want to up your cals

[wants2Bhuge]

yeah bro don't even imply that you want to get sources, you'd get scammed and if you ask for it directly possibly banned from the forums. do a lot of research before thinking about roids. you might want to up your cals

then how do you find what you are looking for, and quickly?? thanx for the help just trying to get started

[CHUCKYthentic]

if i were you OP, id keep training for about 2-3 years. get a solid foundation, get up to at least 200 naturally, then reconsider AAS. age is a factor as well, wait til you re at least 24-25

keep dieting and training hard for now. days and days of reasearch is not enough... try years. good luck

[Matt]

ur food choices seem sound... and based upon your bf your doing something right...

i think the culprit is that your not eating ENOUGH...
any time i hear the word platue, especialy at your stats.. i think diet...

u mind doing some math for me??
Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )



once you have that number, you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

Thank god for the internet, some sound advice there.^^

[jamyjamjr]

Thank god for the internet, some sound advice there.^^

[CHUCKYthentic]

ur food choices seem sound... and based upon your bf your doing something right...

i think the culprit is that your not eating ENOUGH...
any time i hear the word platue, especialy at your stats.. i think diet...

u mind doing some math for me??
Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )



once you have that number, you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

great point and input here jamy on the diet and plateauing

you love that BMR calculation huh? LOL i give it to some of my buddies too

[wants2Bhuge]

ur food choices seem sound... and based upon your bf your doing something right...

i think the culprit is that your not eating ENOUGH...
any time i hear the word platue, especialy at your stats.. i think diet...

u mind doing some math for me??
Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )



once you have that number, you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

yes i will do this for you , i don't have time tonight, saturday and all, i do like to go out and have fun , but don't drink , well maybe just one a week, but never more. i think i am eating enough for my stats now, i would certainly up the calories once I was using gear, so I really need help with that part more than diet please, there are so many different threads i just want to do it right and find good stuff. some threads say stack some say single, its hard to know which threads are the ones to go with

[jamyjamjr]

let's work on making sure your diet is up to par... then i'll help u with your cycle bro

[CHUCKYthentic]

yes i will do this for you , i don't have time tonight, saturday and all, i do like to go out and have fun , but don't drink , well maybe just one a week, but never more. i think i am eating enough for my stats now, i would certainly up the calories once I was using gear, so I really need help with that part more than diet please, there are so many different threads i just want to do it right and find good stuff. some threads say stack some say single, its hard to know which threads are the ones to go with

IMO, you re in too much of a hurry bro

[T-MOS]

I feel you have a decent base at ONLY 5'9" and 180 and ONLY 9%

you are slightly young but with your background and sound diet knowledge I dont' think doing a cycle would hurt you at this point

I would look to this thread to gain the best starter information

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

as far as finding the "right stuff" that takes time on here and even when you get a place you still need to be careful
good luck keep us posted

[T-MOS]

let's work on making sure your diet is up to par... then i'll help u with your cycle bro

agreed ^^ lets take a look when you time so you understand how to eat better on cycle too. jamyjamjr is one of the best and most helpful when it comes to diets

[jamyjamjr]

agreed ^^ lets take a look when you time so you understand how to eat better on cycle too. jamyjamjr is one of the best and most helpful when it comes to diets

awww T, there you go making me blush again..

[wants2Bhuge]

thanx tmos and jamyjamjr i know i seem in a hurry, but i have been researching for weeks and i know it will be at least a 12 week cycle which is why i want to get started so sorry if im in a bit of a rush that puts me in mid july to be done, i do want to do it right just in a hurry to find it so its here thanx guys

[8iron]

agreed ^^ lets take a look when you time so you understand how to eat better on cycle too. jamyjamjr is one of the best and most helpful when it comes to diets

I dont know hes got me still eating cake

I like cake................

[jamyjamjr]

thanx tmos and jamyjamjr i know i seem in a hurry, but i have been researching for weeks and i know it will be at least a 12 week cycle which is why i want to get started so sorry if im in a bit of a rush that puts me in mid july to be done, i do want to do it right just in a hurry to find it so its here thanx guys

post up a detailed diet with macros.. pro/fat/cal/carb..

u can use fitday.com to figure this out.. also do the math i provided earlier...

then we'll set u up on the cycle bro... im not talking about much time.. gimmie 24hrs to tweak ur diet and ill help u with your cycle.. u have my word

[T-MOS]

I dont know hes got me still eating cake

I like cake................

hey, dont' go eating my cake dammit..... i am bulking

I LIKE CAKE TOO

[jamyjamjr]

hey, dont' go eating my cake dammit..... i am bulking

I LIKE CAKE TOO

wow... cant save them alll... lmao

[Lightsout2184]

i wouldnt say moneys no object your just asking to get scammed..........

yeah but i dont think thats what he meant. its like primo vs winny

[wants2Bhuge]

Thanx guys, just got in from a night out and for the record I did not have a single drop of alcohol...
i will work on the numbers for u today jamyjamjr.

night all

[wants2Bhuge]

ok, got my 25 post, now who do I need to PM or will someone PM me please???

[Noles12]

About what? To say hi?

[T-MOS]

seems he wants someone to go fishing with I think

[Noles12]

By the way reading this i was imagining a guy speed talking. I was laughing to myself because all i could think in my head was how fast you might talk in person. Sorry i just had to give my input on this

[Noles12]

seems he wants someone to go fishing with I think

Thats what i was thinking. Thats why i asked what he wants someone to PM him for. Just setting himself up for the scam.

[wants2Bhuge]

umm yea to say hi....just need a little friendly guidence, sorry if i said sumthin rong

[T-MOS]

Thats what i was thinking. Thats why i asked what he wants someone to PM him for. Just setting himself up for the scam.

yes, i agree

want 2 b, you are skating on thin ice here. I know you are in a hurry for summer, BUT there are ways of doing things here, PLEASE be patient and good things will come to you...............

you may want to have a read of this for your own safety

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=383169

[Noles12]

you have to be more specific. Asking someone to PM you for a source is stupid. You will get scammed more than likely.

[wants2Bhuge]

ur food choices seem sound... and based upon your bf your doing something right...

i think the culprit is that your not eating ENOUGH...
any time i hear the word platue, especialy at your stats.. i think diet...

u mind doing some math for me??
Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )



once you have that number, you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

ok, here we go!

BMR= 1914.1

X 1.55 = 2967 Calories needed per day

average daily diet with macros

Meal 1-...9 egg whites
............. 1 whole egg
............. 1/2 grapefruit
............. 8 0z 2% milk
............. 8 oz Cream of Wheat
............. 1 tbsp Flaxseed oil................Cal= 547- P= 48 C= 40 F=19

Meal 2- 6 oz of sirloin...........
............. 1 sweet potato....................Cal=464- P= 53 C = 27 F =14

Meal 3.... 8 oz chicken breast
.............. 1 sweet potato...................Cal= 360.....P= 50 C= 27 F= 1.5

Meal 4 .... 12 oz sirloin
............... 1 plain baked potato..........Cal= 907.....P= 108...C= 51 F =27

Meal 5...... 8 oz chicken breast
................ 1 sweet potato................. Cal= 360....P = 50....C= 27 F= 1.5

Meal 6...... 8 oz Turkey Breast
................ 10 egg whites...................Cal= 460.....P = 82....C = 5 F= 10

TOTALS.....Calories= 3098................P= 391.......Carbs= 177....Fat = 73


like i have been tryin to tell ya, i been a dedicated trainer for past 3 years. I know pretty much how to diet and increase calories when i need to.
what i dont' know is whats the best steroids for me to begin with as i have read stickies and still confused as some say stack some say single compound
and the biggest hurdle is the part that i am not allowed to ask on the open board but i can't pm and don't know who i would or if someone can pm me?

thanx

[jamyjamjr]

ok, here we go!

BMR= 1914.1

X 1.55 = 2967 Calories needed per day

average daily diet with macros

Meal 1-...9 egg whites
............. 1 whole egg
............. 1/2 grapefruit
............. 8 0z 2% milk omit for skim
............. 8 oz Cream of Wheat omit for rolled oats
............. 1 tbsp Flaxseed oil................Cal= 547- P= 48 C= 40 F=19

Meal 2- 6 oz of sirloin........... try to keep your lean beefs for later on in the day
..[/B]........... 1 sweet potato....................Cal=464- P= 53 C = 27 F =14

Meal 3.... 8 oz chicken breast
.............. 1 sweet potato...................Cal= 360.....P= 50 C= 27 F= 1.5

Meal 4 .... 12 oz sirloin i'd eat this right before bed, switch your turkey breast from your last meal to this and eat the turkey breast here
............... 1 plain baked potato..........Cal= 907.....P= 108...C= 51 F =27

Meal 5...... 8 oz chicken breast
................ 1 sweet potato................. Cal= 360....P = 50....C= 27 F= 1.5

Meal 6...... 8 oz Turkey Breast
................ 10 egg whites...................Cal= 460.....P = 82....C = 5 F= 10

TOTALS.....Calories= 3098................P= 391.......Carbs= 177....Fat = 73


like i have been tryin to tell ya, i been a dedicated trainer for past 3 years. I know pretty much how to diet and increase calories when i need to.
what i dont' know is whats the best steroids for me to begin with as i have read stickies and still confused as some say stack some say single compound
and the biggest hurdle is the part that i am not allowed to ask on the open board but i can't pm and don't know who i would or if someone can pm me?

thanx

it does look good... where's your pwo shake and when do you workout??

if your trying to gain, i'd add another 300kcal to your diet..

[Phate]

ok, here we go!

BMR= 1914.1

X 1.55 = 2967 Calories needed per day

average daily diet with macros

Meal 1-...9 egg whites
............. 1 whole egg
............. 1/2 grapefruit
............. 8 0z 2% milk
............. 8 oz Cream of Wheat
............. 1 tbsp Flaxseed oil................Cal= 547- P= 48 C= 40 F=19
i don't like cream of wheat as a carb source, it's a little high on the GI for me, but it's early morning
Meal 2- 6 oz of sirloin...........
............. 1 sweet potato....................Cal=464- P= 53 C = 27 F =14

Meal 3.... 8 oz chicken breast
.............. 1 sweet potato...................Cal= 360.....P= 50 C= 27 F= 1.5

Meal 4 .... 12 oz sirloin
............... 1 plain baked potato..........Cal= 907.....P= 108...C= 51 F =27
why so much protein, your body can't process all of that? btw i don't like the sirloin you are using, too high in fat IMO
Meal 5...... 8 oz chicken breast
................ 1 sweet potato................. Cal= 360....P = 50....C= 27 F= 1.5

Meal 6...... 8 oz Turkey Breast
................ 10 egg whites...................Cal= 460.....P = 82....C = 5 F= 10
i would take out some of the egg whites and add in fish oil here
TOTALS.....Calories= 3098................P= 391.......Carbs= 177....Fat = 73


like i have been tryin to tell ya, i been a dedicated trainer for past 3 years. I know pretty much how to diet and increase calories when i need to.
what i dont' know is whats the best steroids for me to begin with as i have read stickies and still confused as some say stack some say single compound
and the biggest hurdle is the part that i am not allowed to ask on the open board but i can't pm and don't know who i would or if someone can pm me?

thanx

the diet could use some tweeking, too high in saturated fat and not enough good fats, if you replace that sirloin and start using fish oil i think you will be happy with the results

[jamyjamjr]

^^^ the master has arrived.....

[Phate]

almost forgot to add:

where are the fibrous veges?
how far apart are the meals?
do you adjust carbs/cal for leg day vs. rest day?