Awful elbow pain (brachioradialis strain) and DECA application

[blizzard]

I have an awful elbow pain that slides to my forearm especially on brachioradialis muscle.. it hurts extremely bad when i train ..I decided to stop weight training for 1 week and doing just cardio.. I have made Deca 100 mg from my deltoid but the pain between my elbow and forearm havent yet diminshed. Do you have any suggestions on that? I really feel worse as i stopped training but didnt have any chance..Even if I have TK bands always it hurts alot during lat pull down, deadlift, especially biceps curls... I havent faced any injury thanks to jesus till now but i guess i had the worse one .. any kind of help is heavenly appreciated bros, i really want to get rid of this pain n return my usual training, so all of your thoughts, suggestions are precious for me..

Semper fi!

[BIG_TRUCK]

Avoid exercises that aggravate & Ice right after each workout.

How long have you been taking the deca? Has it had time to kick in yet? Even if so, it is no miracle cure and you still need to rest it.

[blizzard]

thanks for your advice bro, I have had Deca just yesterday as pain is unbearable.. is it ok restin for a week? How long would deca take to kick in btw? I started to feel depressed as i couldnt workout unfortunately..

Semper fi!!

[LATS60]

I have an awful elbow pain that slides to my forearm especially on brachioradialis muscle.. it hurts extremely bad when i train ..I decided to stop weight training for 1 week and doing just cardio.. I have made Deca 100 mg from my deltoid but the pain between my elbow and forearm havent yet diminshed. Do you have any suggestions on that? I really feel worse as i stopped training but didnt have any chance..Even if I have TK bands always it hurts alot during lat pull down, deadlift, especially biceps curls... I havent faced any injury thanks to jesus till now but i guess i had the worse one .. any kind of help is heavenly appreciated bros, i really want to get rid of this pain n return my usual training, so all of your thoughts, suggestions are precious for me..

Semper fi!

Deca won't work, what makes you think it will?
Get it checked out, that is you're 1st course of action, once you know what the problem is then you can address it.

[VWbug66]

if its a minor problem I'm sure deca will work!! I had terrible joint pain after a test and winny cycle, I then started test and deca, i think it was within 3-4 weeks the pain was completly gone, and still is today after about a year or so.

So yes it does cure it. It was very paid paine to, wasn't just a little bit, I couldn't train or work out. Now i'm good, no pain! Thanks Deca

[vpchill]

One thing is for sure, If your in pain before Deca it will hurt even more after you stop. Get it checked out. Rest a While. Your joints get soothed but it only masks the pain.

[LATS60]

if its a minor problem I'm sure deca will work!! I had terrible joint pain after a test and winny cycle, I then started test and deca, i think it was within 3-4 weeks the pain was completly gone, and still is today after about a year or so.

So yes it does cure it. It was very paid paine to, wasn't just a little bit, I couldn't train or work out. Now i'm good, no pain! Thanks Deca

So how would deca do that then? i'd like to some studies if you have any links.

[VWbug66]

i don't have any links as of now. but there is info on here about it, not sure if theyre are any actual studies. I'm not saying it will cure any joint pain, but it cured mine and it was really bad, I couldn't lift heavy things and i couldnt lift right.. after the deca and test cycle, things stayed the same and the pain was gone, and still is today.

[blizzard]

I have been to doc but they couldnt find anything mates??? they applied ultrasound n everything was ok...he told me to use RICE method n given voltaren n iboprufen..well, it still aches like hell when i supinate my left forearm :S

[Hulk34]

I have suffered with elbow problems years. It got as bad as having acute acute lateral and medial epicondylitis as well as elbow tendonitis at the same time.
I'm a Soldier, and as such see the Doctors which are employed by my Unit. Whilst generally they are not too bad, they tend to be very conservative when it comes to the treatment of a sports injury like tendonitis. Physio and rest have never provided any more than a band-aid solution. As soon as I start to hit the weights hard, my arms start to give me grief.

I had learned to train through the pain and had accepted the fact that this was just something I had to deal with. Then I was deployed to Iraq on operations. I was in the shower block after a workout, and out of one of the adjacent showers stepped the Doctor which had deployed with us.
I was hurting, so I decided to hit him up and see what he thought about my situation. He asked a few questions (what have you tried? physio, rest? a brace on your forearm?) and then agreed that it might need a more aggressive approach.
He told me to really smash my arms the next time I trained, and when my symptoms appeared, mark the spot from which the pain seems to radiate, with a whiteboard marker. One dot. Then to come and see him straight away.

So I did it, went and saw him and he jabbed me with some cortisone in one spot on each arm. It was the inside of my elbow from memory. There's a bit of tenderness for a few days, but after that passed I went and trained. I still had the lateral soreness, but nowhere near as bad. We repeated the process and within a week I was training totally pain free.

He did say at the outset that cortisone was a long shot, but I've not had any albow problems in over a year since that treatment was administered.

If you want to try this, I'd suggest you see a GP you have not seen before. I would go and see him and tell him you have a long history of elbow problems which have not responded to physio and have reappeared despite prolonged lay offs. You should say that you have tried a few different kinds of arm braces, but the symptoms persist. Then tell him that you have used cortisone in the past and it is by far the most effective and long lasting treatment, which has allowed you to train symptom free for... (you get the picture).

Good luck... regardless of whether you give it a go or not. I understand what you are going through.

Cheers,

P.

[blizzard]

hulk34, thankin u heaps for your help! i surely need that info bro...im gonna do as u said

[turk1968]

Hydro cortisones also worked for me ,25 years as a carpenter plus gym work gave me big problems inside my elbows. I dont work manually and havent for some years but i told my GP that i could not work, no money, cant support family etc etc etc and within 3 days had both elbows injected and was pain free in the left immediately (48 hrs) .I had a second shot in the right about 2 weeks later which is now 90% pain free just a little soreness. That was about 18 months ago !! Maybe a consideration for you depending on a good prognosis of exactly what is wrong and whether that condition can be treated by shots. Deca may help a little for general wear and tear but most gear that holds water can help general joint pain but as a treatment ive not seen it in my many years. (im 48)

[busaboy27]

i had the same problem on and off noticed it when i started to lift heavy.. kinda like shin splits.. i would do preacher curls and it felt like that in my forearms. like the muscle was pulling away or the bone was flexing.. also in my elbow too.. i changed the wrokout a little to were i didnt put the strain on it like that.. stuck with it for a month and let it heal up a little and took glucosamine(not that i know it helped..) but it went away.


does cortisone mask the pain? i mean would u still be doing the damage but just not feel it?

[mho]

I have been to doc but they couldnt find anything mates??? they applied ultrasound n everything was ok...he told me to use RICE method n given voltaren n iboprufen..well, it still aches like hell when i supinate my left forearm :S

Careful with the Ibuprofen. I know two people that used it on a daily basis for a few years and now they both have permanent IBS.

[busaboy27]

my cousin got ibs.. but its caused by girlfriend stress. was funny first couple times when we at a club and he is mudding up the bathroom and they got to rope it off..

[FireGuy]

Read this thread, great information.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=221463

RICE may be exactly what you DONT need.
PS. Have been having the same issues and accupuncture has been the most successful treatment method to date.

[mho]

my cousin got ibs.. but its caused by girlfriend stress. was funny first couple times when we at a club and he is mudding up the bathroom and they got to rope it off..

haha that sucks. There's a guy at my work that has ibs and he was running to the bathroom and someone saw him running for it, so they ran in first and locked the door. The guy with ibs shit his pants and had to go home. I felt pretty sorry for him but he's a real bad citizen so I laughed too.

[turk1968]

I had an MRI scan done on both elbows before i had the injections (**** it was funny them trying to get me in the machine,you have to lay in the superman pose on your side and my opposite shoulder kept hitting on the top of the machine).Those images are amazing and they can see exactly what the problem is. After the injections i was very careful for about 6 weeks slowly increasing the weight on the exercises that caused the pain even though i was pain free. They gave me a repeat perscription for naproxen(NSAID) which i never used as i didnt want to have to use them to train and risk further damage. Now 18 months later i get no pain in the gym what so ever. Cortisones are good for some conditions but not for others.A good prognosis of the problem is what is called for.

[Hulk34]

From what was explained to me, the pain associated with tendonitis IS the damage. The underlying condition is inflammation, which is helped by the administration of cortisone... a powerful anti-inflammatory.

I was warned away from RICE. Heat was the best treatment, especially straight after a heavy session. When I was seeing a physio, he'd microwave a heat pack and thoroughly warm the areas in question before he worked on them. I would also have a really hot shower before I trained, which I found did help a little bit some days.

Let us know how you go Blizzard... I'll be checking in :-)

[guitario]

I have the exact same injury. It sounds like tendonosis which is similar to tendonitis but the treatment is totally different.

Rest actually makes it worse in the short term, so what you should do is dont touch any exercise that aggrevates the pain. Massage the point of pain after every workout and do not go near ice or anti imflammatory tablets.. they will stop it from healing.

What you need to though, is twice a week do 3 sets of eccentric dumbell bicep curls. Pick a weight that you fail at about 8-12 reps.

This sounds bizarre but eccentric curls actually cure this problem very quickly. Read up on tendonosis on the net and you'll see.