test & anavar cycle advice

[body1]

Hi..
I'm 6 foot 3, 225 lbs.I'm aiming in reaching about 210 to 200 lbs riped in the next three months. I 'm interested to starting a new cycle and was thinking on trying something mild. I was thinking of trying anavar with testosterone enat. or testoviron. Here is what I'm thinking about:

week 1 250mg test 20mg anavar ED
week 2 250mg test 40mg anavar ED
week 3 500mg test 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 4 500mg test 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 5 250mg test 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 6 250mg test 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 7 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 8 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED

Also thinking of using universals animalpak and milk thistle ED and taking protein isolate as well.

I also have some clenbuterol at hand and was thinking in taking some for the first three weeks or would it be better to take it on the last three weeks?

as a PCT start with clomiphen for two weeks and after that I was thinking of going for 3 injection shots of pregnil 5000 leaving a 5 day gap between shots.
I am not so sure on when to start the pct and the doses of clom.

Please any advice/opinion on that cycle and pct?
Any feedback would be highly apreciated.....Thanks in advance everyone

[D7M]

how old are you?

do you know your approx. body fat?

[LATS60]

Hi..
I'm 6 foot 3, 225 lbs.I'm aiming in reaching about 210 to 200 lbs riped in the next three months. I 'm interested to starting a new cycle and was thinking on trying something mild. I was thinking of trying anavar with testosterone enat. or testoviron. Here is what I'm thinking about:

week 1 250mg test 20mg anavar ED
week 2 250mg test 40mg anavar ED
week 3 500mg test 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 4 500mg test 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 5 250mg test 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 6 250mg test 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 7 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED
week 8 40mg anavar ED 20mg nolvadex ED

Also thinking of using universals animalpak and milk thistle ED and taking protein isolate as well.

I also have some clenbuterol at hand and was thinking in taking some for the first three weeks or would it be better to take it on the last three weeks?

as a PCT start with clomiphen for two weeks and after that I was thinking of going for 3 injection shots of pregnil 5000 leaving a 5 day gap between shots.
I am not so sure on when to start the pct and the doses of clom.

Please any advice/opinion on that cycle and pct?
Any feedback would be highly apreciated.....Thanks in advance everyone

New cycle or first cycle, reason i ask is because the above cycle is a mess and you haven't a clue about PCT.

[KAEW44]

I have seen this format of cycle done in many gyms across the world but with dianabol in place of anavar, and results were mixed but what was sure was that you cannot make/keep much gains from a cycle like this.

I personally would advise the standard on this forum which is to go longer on the test maybe 12-14 weeks or else you really wont get the results you want.

As for your PCT, you should do the pregnyl before you start the clomiphine/clomid because the pregnyl HCG itself will shut you down if used alone and if you plan on using a dosage as high as 5000IU three times i think you will kill your testicles sensitivity to LH.

The cycle is not a very good one, it is mild like u want but its not good.

[thai-lan]

First of all stats
age
weight
height
bodyfat

and second of all its pretty bad cycle , u need to research more please dont start this cycle without enough research

[LATS60]

I have seen this format of cycle done in many gyms across the world but with dianabol in place of anavar, and results were mixed but what was sure was that you cannot make/keep much gains from a cycle like this.

I personally would advise the standard on this forum which is to go longer on the test maybe 12-14 weeks or else you really wont get the results you want.

As for your PCT, you should do the pregnyl before you start the clomiphine/clomid because the pregnyl HCG itself will shut you down if used alone and if you plan on using a dosage as high as 5000IU three times i think you will kill your testicles sensitivity to LH.

The cycle is not a very good one, it is mild like u want but its not good.

Interesting, what do you mean when you say that hCG itself will shut you down?

[KAEW44]

Interesting, what do you mean when you say that hCG itself will shut you down?

Since HCG-Pregnyl is used as part of the group generally labelled as "recovery bunch" it is often misunderstood and people think that HCG can stand-alone kick back your natural test production after a cycle, and if you beleive that then it makes sense to think that the more HCG you use, then logically the more stronger or faster recovery you will get correct?

WRONG!!

HCG can be used during or after a cycle to MIMIC your natural bodies production of hormones. All it does is TRICK your balls into thinking everything is back to normal and fine. So if you do a strong cycle which shuts you down strongly and shrinks your boys a little, then HCG is very good during the weeks in which you wait for the gear to leave your system.

HCG should be taken with nolvadex and should be taken in doses which mimic your natural production, i have heard 500IU a day for a week or two, and some prefer 1000IU every two or three days. You should do it with nolvadex, and you should stop using it just as you start your real PCT which should include both Nolvadex and CLomid.

Example after your last shot of test enanthate in the cycle, you should start the PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex after three weeks from the last shot (check PCT forum for exact time this is just example). So during these three weeks you should do the HCG therapyand stop as soon as you start the PCT.

Nolvadex and Clomid will kick start your NATURAL test production and help control the estrogen rebound and side effects of coming off from a cycle.

HCG does NOT make you recover, it ony acts as an aid in tricking your balls which is important if they have atrophy from a cycle.

[body1]

how old are you?

do you know your approx. body fat?

i'm 31 i would thing my bdy fat shouldbe around 20% .......but to tell you the truth I do not know for sure. I was riped 204 pounds six months ago but I had an injury that messed up my diet and did no exersise at all

[body1]

New cycle or first cycle, reason i ask is because the above cycle is a mess and you haven't a clue about PCT.

it is my third cycle....What i mean for the cycle is that i am thinking of taking for example at week1 250 mg of test once a week and 20 mg of var ED. And not an injection every day if that is what you thought....sorry if i was not very clear if that is the case

[body1]

I have seen this format of cycle done in many gyms across the world but with dianabol in place of anavar, and results were mixed but what was sure was that you cannot make/keep much gains from a cycle like this.

I personally would advise the standard on this forum which is to go longer on the test maybe 12-14 weeks or else you really wont get the results you want.

As for your PCT, you should do the pregnyl before you start the clomiphine/clomid because the pregnyl HCG itself will shut you down if used alone and if you plan on using a dosage as high as 5000IU three times i think you will kill your testicles sensitivity to LH.

The cycle is not a very good one, it is mild like u want but its not good.

Could you please give me an example of what do you propose that I use instead?
I have the anavar at hand to start with and i can easily get deca and testo that is why I'm thinking of doing the cycle that i posted. I thought that by adding deca whould be maybe to much for what I want.

[thai-lan]

it is my third cycle....What i mean for the cycle is that i am thinking of taking for example at week1 250 mg of test once a week and 20 mg of var ED. And not an injection every day if that is what you thought....sorry if i was not very clear if that is the case

You probably wont see much anavar results with 20mg ed. It would be a waste of cycle doint test 250/week and var20mg ed with %20bf.. Honestly id rather have a good diet plan and workout than doing that cycle.. I think you should go to diet forum and read