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    Ryan121 is offline Associate Member
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    Test E/ Deca lean mass

    5'9 185 2 cycles of Test and W. Goal LEAN MASS.
    TDEE is 2748, Calories 2500, 300 Protein 300Carb 70 FAT, cardio 3 days a week

    I change my deca mg from 500mg to 300mg and shorted by 2 weeks....is this ok? Thoughts ?

    Also can I add Masteron Ethan, if so when?

    Lastly, will i decided no dbol , is this ok?


    So I am doing about to start:
    Test E 500mg per week 1-12
    Deca 300mg per week 1-10
    Winnie 50mg ed 9-12
    Adex .25mg eod
    B6
    Milk Thistle while on winny
    caber on hand

    HCG start week 10 week 13 ( 2 500iu shots/week 4 days apart)
    PCT starts 14 days after last test e shot

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

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    johnnybigguns is offline Banned
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    No dbol is fine and the lower dose of deca is also fine.
    2 cycles and your only 185lb that pretty light you should look into your diet.
    You could of hit that weight naturally no problem.
    What's your age and bf%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan121 View Post
    5'9 185 2 cycles of Test and W. Goal LEAN MASS.

    Age?

    TDEE is 2748, Calories 2500, 300 Protein 300Carb 70 FAT, cardio 3 days a week

    I change my deca mg from 500mg to 300mg and shorted by 2 weeks....is this ok? Thoughts ?

    Yes.

    Also can I add Masteron Ethan, if so when?

    No need.

    Lastly, will i decided no dbol , is this ok?

    If you want a kickstart it would be helpful, but with winny later in the cycle I wouldn't use it although you have enough time in between (not a big fan of Dbol).


    So I am doing about to start:
    Test E 500mg per week 1-12
    Deca 300mg per week 1-10
    Winnie 50mg ed 11-14
    Adex .25mg eod
    B6
    Milk Thistle while on winny

    Run the Milk Thistle after pct.
    caber on hand

    HCG start week 10 week 13 ( 2 500iu shots/week 4 days apart)
    PCT starts 14 days after last test e shot

    Run the hcg weeks 12-15 at 500ui ed. Works better than high dosages applied 5 days apart.

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20
    I would add an AI here. Aromasin would be the choice.
    Comments in red.

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    Ryan121 is offline Associate Member
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    30 bf% 9

    I am also a naturally skin dude.

    I was at 192 over the winter and cardio the lbs off. Honestly I looked big. I am not trying to get huge pal, GOAL for me is not how much I weigh in at; it's how I look...

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    johnnybigguns is offline Banned
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    You could of got to where you are without the use of AS is all I am saying

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    Ryan121 is offline Associate Member
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    your point is taken...
    I do my studying on substances, diet and ask good question, why so critical.
    I come here for your and others assistance on my cycle not for you telling me what I should of done 8 years ago. I ran two cycles one pro hormones and one test with W. I think that is stellar weight at 30yr and with a lean bf!!

    Peace

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    johnnybigguns is offline Banned
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    Its what you should also be doing now.

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