Do some injections hurt you more than others?

[Polska]

I just started prop 150mg EOD. My first shot in left quad went smooth as butter, no pain. My next shot in the delt was a little uncomfortable. Now my third shot in the right quad is turning me into a damn parapalegic. Feels like I got a baseball bat to the leg! Prop is dosed at 100mg/ml and I'm not sure if they used EO in it or not. Why would my first shot be painless and my next two progressively worse? Been awhile since I ran prop. I'm due for another dart tomorrow and I'm stressed! Gonna need a wheelchair soon

[Lightsout2184]

yeah prop is supposed to be more painful. i go through the same thing though with all my injections. right now im running cyp and ill have 2 shots in a row that i cant feel at all and then ill have a crappy one. obviously on cyp never like ive been hit by a bat.

[CHUCKYthentic]

haha ya man ive had that issue in the past with my quad.

now quad is my favorite site! the shoulder might be sore if you havent injected it in a while and cause its such a small muscle. same with the right quad, matbe you havent injected it in awhile. it should get better man

i just started my tren a in my cycle and its smooth, hardly any pain. what i like to do and recommend is workout that muscle some way that i inject into that days, has helped every time so far

[MekeMeke]

LMAO, yeah man, I am shooting prop at 100mg ED and it also has got me stressed. Did my right quad and I also felt like someone hit me with a baseball bat the next day. The following day I shot into the left one and it was notably less painfull the days after. I shot it in both glutes and it hasn't hurt that much. I could feel the inject site but not like the first right quad shot. I read somewhere on here that some warm water and a soft massage could help even if it hurts to touch but I haven't tried it. You might as well try it....PZ

[Polska]

yeah prop is supposed to be more painful. i go through the same thing though with all my injections. right now im running cyp and ill have 2 shots in a row that i cant feel at all and then ill have a crappy one. obviously on cyp never like ive been hit by a bat.

I wonder why it works like that? Maybe shooting closer to a nerve makes it more painful?

[chipfsu301]

prop hurts!!

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya could be alota reasons too, maybe knicked a vein in the way in, who know why some hurt and some dont

could also heat the oil before injection too ofcourse

[Jfew44]

Nothing (including prop) has made me more than a little uncomfortable except tren e. Some days it's painless, while others I can't barely lift my arm or move a leg. I'm thinking maybe it's the specific spot you inject, hitting veins, absorbtion, ect

[CHUCKYthentic]

off topic, but damn Polska i have always loved your avitar hahahahaha!

is that a pic off the net or u know that chick?

[SnaX]

Depending on the compound and the Ester.

Test Prop, Primo, I even hear of some people getting pain from Test E.
As well, it depends on the person.



The injection site will be warm, and may get a knot in it. You could massage it out gently to help it settle down a little.

On another possibility, depending on what the manufacturer suspends the compound in, you could experience little to no pain with some of the above... and so on.

I hope this helps.

[aus_stevo]

Props crippled me a **** load of times, I've managed to supress the pain by rotating the shot sites as much as possible, cycling between delts, quads and glutes. I also massage the areas vigorously to spread the oil, and when I can feel a lot of pain coming along, I'll use a really hot water pack and massage the area heaps. Glutes would be the best area.

[Polska]

off topic, but damn Polska i have always loved your avitar hahahahaha!

is that a pic off the net or u know that chick?

Nope don't know her, I saw her pics on the net a long time ago. had to save this one because it was too sexy. Another bro on another board I frequent uses this same avatar. She is popular! lol

[Lightsout2184]

off topic, but damn Polska i have always loved your avitar hahahahaha!

is that a pic off the net or u know that chick?

agreed i cant stop looking at that pic.

[Friend]

Prop f*cking hurts. The first time i jabbed quads i was crippled. I alternate between R and L glutes now, sometimes it hurts sometimes it doesn't. Actually, most of the time it does.

[M302_Imola]

I agree the pain inconsistency is weird. If this continues to be a problem I would cut your prop w/ some sterile oil. Also, try loading the syringe and then heating the liquid up a bit...either by sticking it under you arm pit or giving it a warm bath.

[SnaX]

It's that nature of prop. You're going to have to deal with it.

[Gappa]

my first tren homebrew has been the same way. some have just killed me. the last one I did on my right ass cheek left a bruised lump under my skin and was so painful i couldn't sleep on that side. the other one i tried 1cc of TA and 1cc of test cyp in the same inj and viola no pain at all.. WTF

[Polska]

Does anyone know whether its the acetate ester that causes the pain or is it the solvent?

[Gappa]

it's gotta be that damn BA.
man that avatar.. she's young too..

[illwillogical]

It's easy to hit nerves in quads, I have shot them and all is good, then sometimes it hurts like hell. I would just try to keep track of the exact spot that you hit that it doesn't hurt.

[higherdesire]

I have been having the same problem. I can usually tell when I am doing the injection if it is going to be bad.

Also NEVER warm it under your arm. Under running ater is fine, but the armpit is a breeding ground for bacteria. You can also roll the barrel back and forth in your hands for a few minutes. Water works best for me.

[Hazard]

I've used prop before and it's the ONLY thing that hurts me. I couldn't walk..... i was shooting ED and did quads one day after the other..... literally..... i had to call out of work LMAO!

It may be the ammount of BA used.... but i've also heard of guys using 1%BA and it still hurting so who knows LOL.

Try warming it up and cutting it w/ sterile oil. Try 1 1/2ml's prop (150mg's prop) and 1ml of sterile oil and shoot your glute. If that doesn't help..... you're up the river w/o a paddle LMAO

~Haz~

[M302_Imola]

Also NEVER warm it under your arm. Under running ater is fine, but the armpit is a breeding ground for bacteria.

good point about the bacteria!

[Polska]

I've got another brand of prop on the way. Curious to see whether the new one will be as bad pain wise or better. My leg is slightly better now as I am walking without a limp. Shot my other delt yesterday and so far so good, keeping my fingers crossed. Other than the pain I love prop. Best testosterone ester I've ever used.

[Polska]

One thing that I've found really helps the pain is ibuprofen. 600mg alleviates it enough so I can function. That said, the use of NSAIDS should be kept to a minimum as they can tax the liver especially when concurrently taking juice

[_CrossroadS_]

I guess my muscles got used to the prop pain after a couple injections my first go around. Second cycle, they didn't phase me. Massage the area for a few minutes.

I don't know what your BF% is, but why not try cutting it with some EO and BB, down to say, 75mg/ml, and shooting ED? You should be able to get it through a slin pin, or 27 gauge needle. I shoot TNE ED through a slin pin, and other than doing the injection myself, I wouldn't know it was there.

[M302_Imola]

One thing that I've found really helps the pain is ibuprofen. 600mg alleviates it enough so I can function. That said, the use of NSAIDS should be kept to a minimum as they can tax the liver especially when concurrently taking juice

Not to mention, NSAID's can inhibit protein synthesis as well!

[clintons]

with italy testovis -testo propionate you never got pain!

[Polska]

Not to mention, NSAID's can inhibit protein synthesis as well!

Two sides to this coin; I've read studies that indicate they do not. However on gear I do not think a few hundred mg's here and there would cause a substantial difference either way.

[Gappa]

hey polska I just hit my quad for the first time in a long while.. with 175mgs of HB tren . I massaged the heck outta it too. I just trained legs 2da so if it gets "batted" and i start to limp it wont matter. It feels a little weird now.

[SnaX]

my first tren homebrew has been the same way. some have just killed me. the last one I did on my right ass cheek left a bruised lump under my skin and was so painful i couldn't sleep on that side. the other one i tried 1cc of TA and 1cc of test cyp in the same inj and viola no pain at all.. WTF

Because you cut the TA with more oil when you drew the Cyp oil. (You basically just made the Tren at half it's dosage per mL by adding that extra ml with Cyp.)

I believe you can max at one ester in a suspension and still dissolve another ester in the same oil with little to no issue.
(I will have to re-check up on this)

So it may be possible to put your TA in the very same solvent as Test Cyp, but the pain would be the same, as the Ester to oil ratio is still the same for the TA.
(This is why some companies make 2ml vials.)
This gives me an idea for the "Lab Section" of the forum.

I'll end this here, and edit this post with a link to the thread. (Cutting this reply short in the middle, sorry )

[G-Dog82]

Did my first prop shot 3 days ago in the glute, cut it with some b12... shot went fine but did cork like f*ck... did shoulder yesterday and didn't cut with b12...shot was better and day after always seems to hurt a whole lot more with prop... Arse day after i was in all sort but now its fine... Was told not to do prop for first cycle but i'm loving the shots! see how i feel 5 weeks in though! haha

[Gappa]

yep here comes the pain.. snax, that makes somewhat of sense, by diluting the ba wit another cc. my final verdict is that ba is some toxic shit and in concentrated amounts causes hemorrhaging in tissues.

[M302_Imola]

Two sides to this coin; I've read studies that indicate they do not. However on gear I do not think a few hundred mg's here and there would cause a substantial difference either way.

I agree, while on gear I don't see a few hundred mg's NSAID's effecting protein synthesis!

[G-Dog82]

did another shot in the shoulder yesterday morning, was away on a work trip so couldn't cut with b12 and was unable to warm up oil... My shoulder this morning does feel like someone has stabbed me with a knife and is slowly twisting it! haha Struggled sleeping with it last night.
Only been on for 7 days now and weight has gone up about 1.2kg (2.5lb)......strength has slightly improved but nothing drastic, however didn't expect any changes until a fornight in... so to date pretty happy.

[Gappa]

what are you taking G?

[G-Dog82]

taking prop 100mg eod...love the shot, still trying to control the nerves before self injection... u on cycle gappa?

[Polska]

taking prop 100mg eod...love the shot, still trying to control the nerves before self injection... u on cycle gappa?

How long have you been takin 100mg eod; is that all you're running?

[Polska]

Last two shots haven't caused me a bit of discomfort.... I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that this pattern continues!

[G-Dog82]

yeah mate running test only for first cycle... Are u mixing prop with anything to ease on the pain?? couldn't sleep due to delt pain last night..