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    Can I avoid side effects

    Hi, I've been training for over 20 years (I'm mid 30's) and have hit my natural potential. I'm ripped and have good size for my frame, but because my job depends on it I need to put on about ten pounds. I have never taken any steriods because of the fear of losing my hair (hereditary), messing up my sex drive, and damaging my prostrate (hereditary). I'd appreciate it if anyone can explain the side effects. I've heard that if you lose your hair from a cycle it does not come back. Also heard that if you don't take HCG or novedex when coming off the cycle your own testosterone production will be very low. For how long I don't know.

    I'm not sure which one to take, but heard test ethanate via injection is the best. I've read that bodybuilders take anywhere from 2-4 cc's a week. I've talked to people that have seen results taking about 1 cc every ten days and staying on it for most of the time. I don't want to put on too much size, but would like to keep it and I cannot lose my cuts, get acne, lose my hair or have a bloated look like many of the pro wrestlers. Am I asking for a miracle? lol. Would I get some gains if I took a half of cc every ten days? I just want to take the lowest amount possible and see some results. Unfortunately I lost my full time job and insurance, so I don't want to go through the expense of doing blood tests to see where my test level is now. I'm guessing it's rather high because my sex drive is 2-3 times a day. Also, I heard that taking a low does of test will help your body heal quicker. I have a problem with minor injuries (tendinities) from lifting weights. Does it help healing?

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thank you,

    Angelo

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    What are your stats. mid 30's, height, wt, bf%.
    How much test is in the 2cc? you need to know the dosage. ie: 400mg/ml. For a first time dose many recommend 500mg per week or test c or e shot twice a week. Also hows ur pct knowledge?
    Also post your daily diet with macros so we can take a look over it and make some suggestions on how to gain those ten pounds with out any steroids. There is a ton of knowledge on this site and everyone will be happy to share it with you if you do some research and ask sensible questions.

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    Thank you for the reply. I'm about 5-6/5-7 and roughly 160 with a six pack. bf about 10% which is up from 7-8% before I put on ten pounds. I'm not sure what you are asking when you say how much is in 2cc, but I know that one cc is one ml and a bottle of test has 10 cc's, so 2cc would be one fifth of a bottle. I did read that bodybuilders usually take 2-4 cc's a week and the injections are better than pills. I'd rather take a pill though. My pct knowledge is good.

    I've tried gaining more and it's so hard because I'm an ectomorph. If I just ate when I was hungry I'd be about 140. I take in between 2500-3000 calories a day. Typical diet is meal one: protein bar, cookies, orange juice. meal two: protein drink, meal three: chilli, meal four: protein drink, meal five:salad with ham, cheese, olive oil. I try to stay away from too much refined sugar and keep my protein about up. Carbs 45-50% protein 20-25% fat 25-30%. Problem is I force myself to eat and don't enjoy eating so it has been a struggle to gain size for twenty years. Also, when I put weigh on I noticed some increase in bodyfat. From what I've read and people I've talked to if I took test it would help me stay lean and put size on.

    I'm sorry I thought these were sensible questions and I have researched this for years. I've talked to many people that have used steriods. Problem is they all took higher doses except for one that took one cc every ten days. Although I did talk to a 66 year old man that is taking .6 cc's every week and his level is at the high end of what a normal 20 yr old is. I'm basically trying to find out what the lowest dose is that I can take that will help me gain lean mass. Some people that have taken it told me .5 cc ever ten days won't do anything. Others told me it should be enough. Some have told me it's such a low dose that I will not need to take novadex when I'm done. Others told me if I don't take it I'll lose my sex drive for awhile.

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
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    This guy is a retard.
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    Thank you for the reply. I'm about 5-6/5-7 and roughly 160 with a six pack. bf about 10% which is up from 7-8% before I put on ten pounds. I'm not sure what you are asking when you say how much is in 2cc, but I know that one cc is one ml and a bottle of test has 10 cc's, so 2cc would be one fifth of a bottle. I did read that bodybuilders usually take 2-4 cc's a week and the injections are better than pills. I'd rather take a pill though. My pct knowledge is good.

    I've tried gaining more and it's so hard because I'm an ectomorph. If I just ate when I was hungry I'd be about 140. I take in between 2500-3000 calories a day. Typical diet is meal one: protein bar, cookies, orange juice. meal two: protein drink, meal three: chilli, meal four: protein drink, meal five:salad with ham, cheese, olive oil. I try to stay away from too much refined sugar and keep my protein about up. Carbs 45-50% protein 20-25% fat 25-30%. Problem is I force myself to eat and don't enjoy eating so it has been a struggle to gain size for twenty years. Also, when I put weigh on I noticed some increase in bodyfat. From what I've read and people I've talked to if I took test it would help me stay lean and put size on.

    I'm sorry I thought these were sensible questions and I have researched this for years. I've talked to many people that have used steriods. Problem is they all took higher doses except for one that took one cc every ten days. Although I did talk to a 66 year old man that is taking .6 cc's every week and his level is at the high end of what a normal 20 yr old is. I'm basically trying to find out what the lowest dose is that I can take that will help me gain lean mass. Some people that have taken it told me .5 cc ever ten days won't do anything. Others told me it should be enough. Some have told me it's such a low dose that I will not need to take novadex when I'm done. Others told me if I don't take it I'll lose my sex drive for awhile.

    Thank you
    And you need to research and post your diet in depth for more detail on a cycle. And i cant find the thread but search and there is one for going in depth what you should do at your height and weight and diet is the answer not gear

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    post up your diet for critique you can most likely gain atleast another 20 lbs by perfecting your diet.

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