Run Deca w/without Caber

[illwillogical]

I have never ran Deca and am wondering if it is common to have prolactin effects without Caber? So I'm posting a poll to see how many people run Deca either with Caber or without.

[peachfuzz]

plan on running it my next cycle for the first time but not without caber handy. thats all im waiting on to start.

[illwillogical]

plan on running it my next cycle for the first time but not without caber handy. thats all im waiting on to start.

Yeah I heard the liquid is bunk. I don't know where to find Dostinex, I'll have to look for it the next time I'm on vacation.

[illwillogical]

bump

[D7M]

I ran my first cycle years ago with deca/test/dbol and had no problems at all.

Still, it'd be best to keep it on hand.

[Martyr]

id run b6 and have caber on hand

[Dukkit]

first deca cycle i ran... got deca dick

every since then i always have caber on hand with all my 19-nor cycles

[Knockout_Power]

first deca cycle i ran... got deca dick

every since then i always have caber on hand with all my 19-nor cycles

did you have test in that cycle?

[RA]

x2 and yea, I had test

first deca cycle i ran... got deca dick

every since then i always have caber on hand with all my 19-nor cycles

[Dukkit]

did you have test in that cycle?

lol

yes i did

thanks mom

[8iron]

first deca cycle i ran... got deca dick

every since then i always have caber on hand with all my 19-nor cycles

Sorry just trying to learn, but i thought that caber and bromo were used for progesterone, and the test we run in the same cycle is to help the deca dick.......I know it also lowers the estrogen.........so are u guys saying that u run the caber as a AI.........last question..... there is no proof that progesterone causes gyno........cant u just run adex to be ur AI and leave it at that?

[illwillogical]

id run b6 and have caber on hand

What's b6 for?

first deca cycle i ran... got deca dick

every since then i always have caber on hand with all my 19-nor cycles

Do you run liquid caber or dostinex? I have heard that the liquids are not reliable.

[peachfuzz]

What's b6 for?

seing as mammon, i mean martyr is banned i dont think he is going to be replying anytime soon. B6 helps control rises in prolactin.

Do you run liquid caber or dostinex? I have heard that the liquids are not reliable.

liquids are a gamble. i wouldnt trust them myself but some people run them without any issues.

[Spartan ^]

I am currently running a test deca cycle and got deca dick. I had some blood work done and my progesterone and prolactin leves were all screwed up. I elected to not run the caber since I have two weeks of deca left on cycle. I will never run deca again without caber though. JMHO.

[RA]

caber is for progesterone and it does cause gyno but thats not what I keep it for...getting deca dick sucks..kills jr

Sorry just trying to learn, but i thought that caber and bromo were used for progesterone, and the test we run in the same cycle is to help the deca dick.......I know it also lowers the estrogen.........so are u guys saying that u run the caber as a AI.........last question..... there is no proof that progesterone causes gyno........cant u just run adex to be ur AI and leave it at that?

[RA]

What's b6 for?



Do you run liquid caber or dostinex? I have heard that the liquids are not reliable.

High doses of b6 lowers progesterone.

The caber has always worked for me.

[Dukkit]

liquids are a gamble. i wouldnt trust them myself but some people run them without any issues.

Do you run liquid caber or dostinex? I have heard that the liquids are not reliable.

liquid caber. never any problems. even at high doses of tren and low doses of test

[Spartan ^]

caber is for progesterone and it does cause gyno but thats not what I keep it for...getting deca dick sucks..kills jr

^And I am sure Jenna wouldn't like that huh RA?

[8iron]

caber is for progesterone and it does cause gyno but thats not what I keep it for...getting deca dick sucks..kills jr

Then the sticky under the pct section needs to be updated because its saying that it does not cause gyno.......caber is a dopaamine and ur saying that it stops deca dick not the test........Im just trying to get all the facts beacause my next cycle is going to have deca in it???

[peachfuzz]

Then the sticky under the pct section needs to be updated because its saying that it does not cause gyno.......caber is a dopaamine and ur saying that it stops deca dick not the test........Im just trying to get all the facts beacause my next cycle is going to have deca in it???

Progesterone by itself does not cause gyno. nor does high levels of estrogen by itself.

but dont be confused. progesterone can cause gyno.

[RA]

No she needs her nightly ride to stay in tune.

^And I am sure Jenna wouldn't like that huh RA?

[peachfuzz]

Estrogen and progesterone act in an integrative fashion to stimulate normal adult female breast development. Estrogen, acting through its ER a receptor, promotes duct growth, while progesterone, also acting through its receptor (PR), supports alveolar development. This is demonstrated by experiments in ER a knockout mice which display grossly impaired ductal development, whereas the PR knockout mice possess significant ductal development, but lack alveolar differentiation.

this is what i read in the educational forum.

[RA]

I did a lazy cut and paste-

Progesterone : Its not so much progesterone that we watch, which is actually a healthy hormone, but progestins which may act upon its receptors. Progestins, like " href="http://www.steroid.com/Deca.php">Deca (nor-9's), may act on its receptor or lower progesterone in the blood. Gyno and lactating are more common side effects. Some people use progesterone receptor blockers to combat this, or a prolactin production inhibitor.

[8iron]

Progesterone by itself does not cause gyno. nor does high levels of estrogen by itself.

but dont be confused. progesterone can cause gyno.

Thanks Peachfuzz....what about the deca dick is tht what caber is for or have i been reading it wrong

[peachfuzz]

test to replace what has been suppressed

caber if progesterone/prolactin is too high.

[8iron]

test to replace what has been suppressed

caber if progesterone/prolactin is too high.

Thanks peachfuzz, appreciate ur help, maybe i was reading it wrong up there but it was sounding like they were using caber for deca dick....so i thought l my research about caber being for progesterone/prolactin was wrong......thanks bro.....!!!!

[RA]

Every time you post its more confusing. Caber is for deca dick-yes

Thanks peachfuzz, appreciate ur help, maybe i was reading it wrong up there but it was sounding like they were using caber for deca dick....so i thought l my research about caber being for progesterone/prolactin was wrong......thanks bro.....!!!!

[peachfuzz]

they are using caber for deca dick. if prolactin/progesterone is too high it will cause you penis problems. they are using the caber to help lower their levels.

[8iron]

they are using caber for deca dick. if prolactin/progesterone is too high it will cause you penis problems. they are using the caber to help lower their levels.

thats what i was looking for that progesterone can also cause deca dick, thanks RA and Peachfuzz.....i thought since deca shut down the nat test that the test was suppose to do the trick........i didnt reaalize that the caber would also be a solution also.........thanks for being patient it all make since now....

[peachfuzz]

no problemo. thats what the board is for.