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05-05-2009, 09:44 AM #1Junior Member
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show prep cutting cycle
I am 8 weeks out from a bb show and am thinking about running a cutting cycle. I had test-e and winni in mind or maybe just test-e by itself. It would be my first cycle.
heres what I've come up with: test-e 400-500 mg a week for 10 weeks straight through the show "8 weeks"
start winni maybe a week or two into cycle and run through the ten weeks which would be weeks 2 or 3 - week 10 at 50 mg a day.
pct: starting 2 weeks after last test injection run nolva at 40, 20,20,20
clomid: 100, 50, 50, 50
hows it look?
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05-05-2009, 10:07 AM #2Junior Member
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anything guys?
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05-05-2009, 10:13 AM #3
dont use test e,, go with prop
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05-05-2009, 10:22 AM #4Junior Member
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what mg's and isnt that done eod?
Is the pct good enough?
If I can get adex on hand I'll have that also just in case but may not be able to obtain that.
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is this your first show?
age?
height?
weight?
bf?
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05-05-2009, 10:54 AM #6Junior Member
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5'11"
195
12%
yes first show but ive trained for years and done numerous prohormone cycles
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I'd go with prop, too.
winny dose is low (50mg/day). you'd prob be better off with 75mg day run a shorter duration.
pct is fine.
good luck.
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05-05-2009, 11:01 AM #8
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05-05-2009, 11:06 AM #9Junior Member
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no... no tests.. I'd be SOL if it was
so what should the cycle look like preferably?
When should the winni be started and stopped and so fourth and when should pct begin?
thanks
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05-05-2009, 11:08 AM #10
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05-05-2009, 11:49 AM #11
you seem to be a little behind on your condition at 12% bf 8 weeks out from showtime. like everyone else said, swap out the test e for prop and winny asap. the same pct you proposed should suffice. i suggest upping the cardio and tossing in some clen and t3 if your not on it already to try and catch up.
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05-05-2009, 11:51 AM #12Junior Member
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ok... 8 week prop cycle
weeks 1-8: test prop 400 mg (100 mg eod)
weeks 2-8: winni 60-80 mg every day (oral)
pct: starting 3 days after last injection..
clomid: 100, 50, 50, 50
nolva: 40, 20, 20, 20
critique away!!
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05-05-2009, 11:53 AM #13Junior Member
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well... ive been down to 5% bf before so it should come off relatively fast. I can drop weight fast. But this is why I want to run a cycle... to help me get there quicker.
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05-05-2009, 11:54 AM #14
not too shabby but definitely add in some clen /t3 and up the cardio to help melt away the fat. 12% is NOT good for 8 weeks out
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05-05-2009, 11:55 AM #15
keep in mind that you will hold on to more muscle doing a slower cut rather than faster one. also, steroids DO NOT burn fat, diet and cardio do
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05-05-2009, 11:55 AM #16Junior Member
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like i said... i drop weight fast and my metabolism is high.
could i run this cycle without the winni and get good results using clen or another fat burner?
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05-05-2009, 11:56 AM #17Junior Member
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well... if im on something , wont i hold on to the muscle anyways?
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05-05-2009, 11:59 AM #18Junior Member
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another thing... I plan on using 25 g needles for injecting.. 1" for thighs, and 1/2 " for delts. Do I need a larger needle for drawing the solution. I dont know yet if I'll have vials or amps so...
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05-05-2009, 11:59 AM #19
you dont need the winny but it will make you look much harder and dryer. clen is gonna be your best bet as far as a fat burner goes. i dont care how fast your think your metabolism is, 12% at 8 weeks out is way behind. you may be good at shedding weight fast, but shedding 7-8% fat in 8 weeks is VERY hard to do, especially if holding onto muscle is a concern
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05-05-2009, 12:01 PM #20Junior Member
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I agree its gonna be hard but I'm going to try. I'll never know if I dont try right?
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05-05-2009, 12:01 PM #21
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05-05-2009, 12:03 PM #22
id bump up to 125 or 150 eod
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05-05-2009, 12:03 PM #23Junior Member
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so 23 or 25g would be out of the question for drawing or can you make it work?
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05-05-2009, 12:04 PM #24
i use 23 1" for everything
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05-05-2009, 12:04 PM #26Junior Member
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at 100mg eod that is 400mg per week but 500mg a week would work better i assume. Just trying to take it easy for the first cycle
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05-05-2009, 12:05 PM #27
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05-05-2009, 12:05 PM #28Junior Member
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you mean 23g 1" for drawing and injecting. Quads, delts, ass?
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05-05-2009, 12:06 PM #29
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05-05-2009, 12:08 PM #30
yea 100m eod is 350,, and i use 23 for everything,, drawing shooting etc,, i dont shoot delts though.
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05-05-2009, 12:08 PM #31Junior Member
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ive considered but dont know if i can get adex yet.
mon. 100mg Wed. 100 Fri. 100 Sun. 100
that equals 400 right
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05-05-2009, 12:09 PM #32Junior Member
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i see what you're saying .. the sun. injection counts as a half of the amount right cause it wont reach peak levels til monday
right?
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05-05-2009, 12:10 PM #33
look bro , i am into that right now , but for the summer not for competition , you pct is fine first of all .
here what i would do , depending on how you react to exogenous test , for example if you hold water or not , if it make you gain fat or not , i would base my test dose on that , i personally do not have problems at all with bloat or fat gain with test no matter what the dose i tend to loose fat , so i am using 500 mg of test e per week , if you hold water on it , go with 250 mg per week of test e with an AI for example.
loose as much fat as you can BEFORE adding the winny , i would actually add it when i get to a single digit bodyfat for about 4-6 weeks at 50 mg/day which is a good dose IMHO .
if you need to loose fat fast , do on and off t3/clen mini cycles within your whole cycle to the end to get bodyfat down fast , so for example you can :
250-500 mg of test e per week (or prop if you prefer it doens't make any difference with me personally) for 8 weeks , you will probably be better off with prop cs you only have 8 weeks.
alternating clen +t3 mini cycles with ECA on off weeks of clen and t3.
the last 4 weeks do 50 mg /day of winstrol , throw some proviron in there too at 50 mg/day.
i gave a general guideline , in the end it depends on your own choice , time , genetics ... its up to you to experiment what works best for your body .
N.B : it is not very wise to do your first ever cycle for a competition bro , why dont you just go into it natural this time , and bulk up with a cycle to know your body and familiarize yourself with everything , then in your next contest you will have a better starting point.
hope this helps bro.
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05-05-2009, 12:11 PM #34
well you have to count 2 weeks worth and then do math,, your gonna have 4 shots one week 3 the next
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05-05-2009, 12:15 PM #36Junior Member
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what happend to phate...? lol Hes supposed to critique
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