How much test will shut you down?

[Bio-Active]

do you think 2 injections of test 7 days apart 100 mg would be enough to shut down your natural test production?

[WARMachine]

Umm...

Probably. Perhaps not entirely, but it will certainly be effected.

[BrunkerVic]

as soon as you put 100mg of unnatural test in your body, it will immidiately shut down your natural test production

[johnnybigguns]

I would think anything injected over your natural amount would shut you down.

[jfalco]

as soon as you put 100mg of unnatural test in your body, it will immidiately shut down your natural test production

this seems like an extreme statement. can you back it up?

[Bio-Active]

So would recovery warrant pct?

[WARMachine]

as soon as you put 100mg of unnatural test in your body, it will immidiately shut down your natural test production

Its hard to say with certainity, but generally speaking, any amount of synthetic testosterone will cause some suppression.

[amcon]

this seems like an extreme statement. can you back it up?

two shots of test c at (200 mg/ml) half a cc. so the dose was 100 mg - my test was 345 after 5 days after the shot and my nuts were totally turned off... tow shots

doc says that you cant count on that to totally shut down but it would 99.9% of the time not let you get a chic preg... his words not mine

[jfalco]

Its hard to say with certainity, but generally speaking, any amount of synthetic testosterone will cause some suppression.

much more reasonable statement.

[Bio-Active]

So how rough would recovery be?

[jfalco]

off topic question, but curiousity is killing me.

Why did you do only two shots of test, and why only 100 mg?

[amcon]

off topic question, but curiousity is killing me.

Why did you do only two shots of test, and why only 100 mg?

if that question was for me... i am on hrt... and the doc wanted me to try clomid before we went to intro muscular injections of test, so i have only taken two shots third is in just a few moments... and btw i shooting a full cc in lol - f the doc

[Phate]

off topic question, but curiousity is killing me.

Why did you do only two shots of test, and why only 100 mg?

i'll bet that he's on trt as 200mg/wk is a basic trt dose and he mentioned his doc, meaning the doc knows he's taking AS and is probably prescribing them to him

[Bio-Active]

Ok long story will make it short. Doc put me on prescribed test because my blood test came back low. I am crashing and feel horrible every since i started! this early in the game i am trying to decide to ride it out or just get off the test. I felt a lot better before. The doc wont change my dose until after blood work in 4-6 weeks. So i haven't made up my mind but just want to make an informed decision! I will still probably go see an endo doc but i don't want to feel like garbage for 6 weeks if i could recover pretty easy!

[amcon]

i'll bet that he's on trt as 200mg/wk is a basic trt dose and he mentioned his doc, meaning the doc knows he's taking AS and is probably prescribing them to him

guess (if directed to me) is right trt or hrt same thing... first had me on androgel then pulled me off that to try some clomid- did get my putitary gland working so back on test -

nice to see you phate

[Phate]

guess (if directed to me) is right trt or hrt same thing... first had me on androgel then pulled me off that to try some clomid- did get my putitary gland working so back on test -

nice to see you phate

yeah it was, androgel and clomid? WTF? i know fitness competitors that run clomid or nolva to help with test levels but for a guy?

nice to see you too bro, hope ya been doin well

Ok long story will make it short. Doc put me on prescribed test because my blood test came back low. I am crashing and feel horrible every since i started! this early in the game i am trying to decide to ride it out or just get off the test. I felt a lot better before. The doc wont change my dose until after blood work in 4-6 weeks. So i haven't made up my mind but just want to make an informed decision! I will still probably go see an endo doc but i don't want to feel like garbage for 6 weeks if i could recover pretty easy!

i'm not quite getting your question, are you wanting to know if you stop the test right now will you recover? or are you wanting to supplement your own test in with the doc's?

[Bio-Active]

If I was to stop the test right now. How rough do you think the recovery would be?

[Phate]

If I was to stop the test right now. How rough do you think the recovery would be?

depends, are you gonna pct to get your normal levels back or just ride it out

[Bio-Active]

I could do either. Witch ever would get me back up and running fastest? sounds like pct would be best? I have nolva and clomid on hand.

[jfalco]

Ok long story will make it short. Doc put me on prescribed test because my blood test came back low. I am crashing and feel horrible every since i started! this early in the game i am trying to decide to ride it out or just get off the test. I felt a lot better before. The doc wont change my dose until after blood work in 4-6 weeks. So i haven't made up my mind but just want to make an informed decision! I will still probably go see an endo doc but i don't want to feel like garbage for 6 weeks if i could recover pretty easy!

I would try and ride it out for a little while. You'll probably feel much better once your body gets used to the test.

Trt didn't occur to me because you were asking about getting off after only 2 shots.

I think I remember your other thread now. Were you the guy who shut himself down with pro-hormones?

[Phate]

I could do either. Witch ever would get me back up and running fastest? sounds like pct would be best? I have nolva and clomid on hand.

well then run a nolva/clomid pct, 1-2 weeks should be more than enough since you only took two shots, you really don't have to pct after that low of a dose but it won't hurt anything IMO

[Bio-Active]

no I have never taken pro hormones.

[Bio-Active]

well then run a nolva/clomid pct, 1-2 weeks should be more than enough since you only took two shots, you really don't have to pct after that low of a dose but it won't hurt anything IMO

Should i wait 14 days from the last shot?

[jfalco]

ok remembering someone else. my bad

[Bio-Active]

I would try and ride it out for a little while. You'll probably feel much better once your body gets used to the test.

Trt didn't occur to me because you were asking about getting off after only 2 shots.

I think I remember your other thread now. Were you the guy who shut himself down with pro-hormones?

How long would you wait? nipples have been sore and the doc doesnt seem to care! that's why i was thinking an endo would be much better. Still it takes some time to get in to see an endo as well!

[Phate]

Should i wait 14 days from the last shot?

yeppers

[Bio-Active]

yeppers

Waht dose do you think for pct. Clomid 50/25 nolva 20/20?

[Phate]

Waht dose do you think for pct. Clomid 50/25 nolva 20/20?

that would probably work, remember that you injected less than half of the normal dose for a week, and only did two total injections, so your body isn't that suppressed, especially compared to someone who runs a full test cycle

[Bio-Active]

that would probably work, remember that you injected less than half of the normal dose for a week, and only did two total injections, so your body isn't that suppressed, especially compared to someone who runs a full test cycle

thanks bro! I will see how i feel over the next couple of days and make a decision what to do!

[Lightsout2184]

How long would you wait? nipples have been sore and the doc doesnt seem to care! that's why i was thinking an endo would be much better. Still it takes some time to get in to see an endo as well!

honestly i cant see ur nipples being sore because u had 2 shots at 100 mg 7 days apart. might just be in ur head

[Twist]

Did I miss something or is the type of test not mentioned? cyp?

[Bio-Active]

honestly i cant see ur nipples being sore because u had 2 shots at 100 mg 7 days apart. might just be in ur head

So here is the deal. 4 days from my initial injection I crashed and burned. At 7 days got another injection and didnt feel better till about 2 days after that injection. 4 days from the 2nd injection i started crashing again! Now it has been 7 days since the 2nd injection and I am feeling better again. You think i am feeling better because i am getting used to the drug or because the drug is wearing off and my body is starting to produce its own test again?

[Bio-Active]

bump

[GrandmasterSpank]

I can't see you 'crashing' off that low of a dosage, and after only a few days, unless maybe your shooting a real short ester Test, like Prop, but that's not hrt stuff.

Also, if you are shooting a typical long estered Test, it'll shut you down faster than it builds up in the system. So if you stick with the injections you'll prob have to do so for a good 2-4 weeks before you start to feeling significantly better. -Correct me if I'm wrong here btw vets.

What Test are you shooting dude?

[GrandmasterSpank]

So here is the deal. 4 days from my initial injection I crashed and burned. At 7 days got another injection and didnt feel better till about 2 days after that injection. 4 days from the 2nd injection i started crashing again! Now it has been 7 days since the 2nd injection and I am feeling better again. You think i am feeling better because i am getting used to the drug or because the drug is wearing off and my body is starting to produce its own test again?

Your feeling better because the test in your system has built up to enough of a level to replace/surpass your natural test. See my previous post.

[Bio-Active]

Its test enanthate.

[Bio-Active]

I can't see you 'crashing' off that low of a dosage, and after only a few days, unless maybe your shooting a real short ester Test, like Prop, but that's not hrt stuff.

Also, if you are shooting a typical long estered Test, it'll shut you down faster than it builds up in the system. So if you stick with the injections you'll prob have to do so for a good 2-4 weeks before you start to feeling significantly better. -Correct me if I'm wrong here btw vets.

What Test are you shooting dude?

So in theory would it be easier getting off the test right now than it was getting on? Like i said earlier 4 days after each shot i was shut down pretty hard! couldn't hardly even get out of bed. That is why i am thinking of going to see an endo doc and get away from my family doc that doesnt seem to have a clue!

[Bio-Active]

Bump anyone else

[Bio-Active]

Should i wait 14 days from the last shot?

Or since I am crashing again now! Would it be a good idea to start PCT now? Its been 7 days since last injection.

[doctorclaus]

this seems like an extreme statement. can you back it up?

body on an adult male only produces about 11 mg of test a day, its somehwere in this site