Jfew's 4th Cycle

[Jfew44]

6'3", 240lbs, 12%bf, 22 years old

Cycle Experience
1- Bad prop cycle, no pct, gained nothing had issues for months after
2- Test E (500mgs/week) 12 weeks, Dbol (50mgs/day) 1-4 (Bulker)
3- Test E (500mgs/week) 12 weeks, Tren E (400mgs/week) 10 weeks (cutter)

I started too early, didn't know what I was doing. I am on my third cycle right now, using it as a cutting cycle and trying to keep as much muscle mass as possible. Goal is sub 10% while staying around 220-225lbs. Diet is on track (hanging around with phate and jamy in the diet section).

I would like to get back to the basics (test only), only in a larger amount.

Ok now here is my proposed cycle. This will take place in middle to late fall but I'd like to be ready. Feel free to comment/make suggestions:

Weeks
1-10 Test prop 100mgs/ED
1-13 Adex .5mgs/EOD
10-13 Nolva 40-40-20-20 Clomid 90-70-35-35 (start 3 days after last prop inj)

[Jfew44]

Oh, and I'm doing a lean bulk. Trying to stay under 12% through the duration, assuming I stay around 10% by that time.

[M302_Imola]

I would drop the adex to .25mg EOD at first and go from there...most find this to be an adequate dose to still make gains and control estrogen as well. Also, there will be no need for the adex in PCT if you run it throughout your cycle. Basically, if you control estrogen during your cycle there is no need for an AI during PCT. Cycle looks good other than the suggestions I made, but you might look into running oral winstrol or var for the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle...you can run these right up until the day you start PCT.

Also, how many cals are you going to be running? Maintenance or slightly above? Cardio?

[Jfew44]

I'll be running about 300-400 cals above maintainance, cardio will be cut down to 4x/week, 45min AM. With the adex, .25mgs/ED, or .5mgs/EOD is what keeps my estrogen at a workable level when I'm on test. This is through trial and error.

I was wondering about incorporating winstrol in there. I was thinking 50mgs/ED (injected of course).

[M302_Imola]

I'll be running about 300-400 cals above maintainance, cardio will be cut down to 4x/week, 45min AM. With the adex, .25mgs/ED, or .5mgs/EOD is what keeps my estrogen at a workable level when I'm on test. This is through trial and error.

I was wondering about incorporating winstrol in there. I was thinking 50mgs/ED (injected of course).

looks good! When are you going to through the winny into the mix? 50mg ED sounds like a good dosage.

[Jfew44]

I was thinking weeks 5-10. From what I've researched, it's not good to run it more than 6 weeks, so I figured that would work.

[RANA]

If you're going to run prop and you have experience with tren might as well throw it into the mix (Tren a) for this cycle

[RANA]

Oh, any previous gyno issues?

[chuckt12345]

YOUR hooked,, goin from tren to next w/out you prb be dissapointed. 22 and your 4th cycle,, good look

[laduem88]

yea add either tren a or npp bro

[RANA]

YOUR hooked,, goin from tren to next w/out you prb be dissapointed. 22 and your 4th cycle,, good look

I just realized that. When was your first cycle?

[Jfew44]

^^ Lol my first cycle was a horrible decision. I started it before I was on here. Past 2 cycles have been within 15 months, but both have been short (12 weekers). My third won't take place for awhile, just getting my cards in order.

I've gotten slight gyno on test, but the adex took care of it. So far, no gyno-related issues with tren. You all think I should def. throw tren a in there? I was wanting to go with a high dose of prop only considering my last prop cycle was crap. If I went 100mgs/ED prop, what dose of tren would you suggest? 75mgs/ED?

[M302_Imola]

^^ Lol my first cycle was a horrible decision. I started it before I was on here. Past 2 cycles have been within 15 months, but both have been short (12 weekers). My third won't take place for awhile, just getting my cards in order.

I've gotten slight gyno on test, but the adex took care of it. So far, no gyno-related issues with tren. You all think I should def. throw tren a in there? I was wanting to go with a high dose of prop only considering my last prop cycle was crap. If I went 100mgs/ED prop, what dose of tren would you suggest? 75mgs/ED?

or you could get away with only running 50mg ED Tren with your test being so high.