Clen and Test Prop-can they be run together?

[hrdgainer]

I have conflicting research findings. On one side it says you can run them together and on the other it says that clen will diminish the test's anabolic qualities, yet I do not see how. Since both are anabolic, test being obviously the stronger one, wouldnt they in theory work synergistically and enhance the overall lean muscle mass and fat loss with a great diet and good cardio? Your thoughts and experiences would be greatly appreciated.

[IM708]

Clen doesn't work that way very well in humans. It has anti catabolic properties but it will not add muscle mass. Clen in humans is great for fat burning so you in the end if run with test will see diminished anabolic results.

[hrdgainer]

so basically it will burn the fat, but the test will be used in vain? or you could say that you wont necessarily get smaller, but you wont see much gain with both together? The test, will in essence protect, you but not be an agonist with the clen and improve lean mass. Did I get it right? And thanks for the timely response!

[IM708]

You may see results to a degree or just maintain...it depends on training, dosage, diet, etc. The only reason you would want to do something like that is if you want to cut but maintain your exiting muscle mass. Basically it's counter productive to run both at once if you are solely looking to add muscle mass.

[hrdgainer]

Well I just finished test e with eq for 8wk run 600 and 400 respectively. I bridged into test prop at 100 eod 1-10wk m-w-f and at week 4 going to start winny 4-10wk at 100mg eod m-w-f(pinning, no orals). stopped the eq 1-1 1/2 weeks prior to to the test e and started the prop at that time, so I wouldnt have any lapse. I am also doing L-dex at .25 eod, on pin days and GHRP 300mcg every pm prior to bed. GHRP is going to be run for atleast 6 months. So I guess with that pharmacy list I am now in my cutting cycle. I am cycling my carbs and trying to lean out for summer and a potential show coming up in Sept. Depends on how well the training goes if I will get to the show. As it stands right now, if I were to try to cut down a little at the weight I am I would be annihilated in the 200 class. def not big enough, but if I could get down to 195-197 range I could possibly place in top 5. So far so good. Does that help a little more? I am 212 5'9 @10% BF. Just trying to get vascular and harder. Do you think it might work with the goals I have in mind then? Sorry I wasnt specific enough in the beginning, I have a tendency to do that.

[IM708]

Yeah, I'd think so.