Thread: 2nd Cycle Advice
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05-11-2009, 07:48 PM #1
2nd Cycle Advice
Just finished my Test Cyp/Dbol cycle.
Not really any crazy gains, but I am already looking to do a bulker.
I plan on running Test and Deca .
I am thinking the following:
Test 1-12 Weeks 500mgs/Week
Deca 1-10 Weeks 500mgs/Week
I don't have my test in hand yet but I can get some T400, would it be alright to do t400 instead of test e?
I will have my deca at the end of this week.
And yes I will have proper PCT
Nolva
Clomid
Adex- Just in case.
Any advice would be great
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05-11-2009, 07:54 PM #2
Stats?
age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)
Adex in PCT is pointless unless running a proper dose.
Tamox reduces the effectiveness of Arimidex .
And when were you planning to run this cycle?
I hope you intend to give yourself proper time off?
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05-11-2009, 09:39 PM #3
Whats your diet like? I made good gains on my first cycle with just Test E
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05-11-2009, 09:43 PM #4
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05-11-2009, 09:50 PM #5Tamox reduces the effectiveness of Arimidex .
i thought it was the other way around?And when were you planning to run this cycle?
Tamox reduces the effectiveness of Adex.
Im positive.
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05-11-2009, 09:55 PM #6
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05-11-2009, 09:57 PM #7
^ no worries.
Any chance to skool a AR Hall of Famer...
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05-11-2009, 10:00 PM #8
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05-11-2009, 10:06 PM #9
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05-13-2009, 10:18 AM #10
Sorry for the delay guys.
I'm on my pct. I am just planning ahead. How long do you guys think I should wait for?
age: 22
height: 6'2
weight: 212
bf 13%
Been lifting for over 2 years steady
cycle experience: Prohormone in the past (Waste) Test Cyp/Dbol Cycle
Pct : Plan on using Clomid/Nolva
I am a bit of gyno prone.
Goals: Put on more size, and strength.
Want to be solid 225/230 in the future.
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05-13-2009, 11:12 AM #11
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05-13-2009, 11:23 AM #12
I was not a fan of Dbol
Nipples were sensitive, started to get gyno symptoms.
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05-13-2009, 11:40 AM #13
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05-13-2009, 11:54 AM #14
when did you come off this last cycle?
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05-13-2009, 12:04 PM #15
Tren is not "more advanced", it just has more side effects in some people and the more cycle experience you have the better you can deal with those effects.
I took Tren in my second cycle and besides hair loss and back acne and wanting to bang anything that moves, I was fine. Oh I forgot sweating like a mofo
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05-13-2009, 12:05 PM #16
^ Exactly.
Which is why it not recommended for beginners. i.e. First and second time users.
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05-13-2009, 12:17 PM #17
Ya, I don't plan on doing tren at all.......
I finished my cycle 2 1/2 weeks ago.
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05-13-2009, 12:20 PM #18
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05-13-2009, 12:25 PM #19
^
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05-13-2009, 12:31 PM #20
What gains do you have with cyp and dbol on your first cycle?
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05-13-2009, 12:33 PM #21
Wasn't incredible.
I started at 202 before the cycle.
While on the last week of dbol I was weighing in 216
Ended the cycle at around 211-212
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05-13-2009, 12:36 PM #22Member
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10lbs from a test/dbol cycle? You need major diet help dude.
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05-13-2009, 12:36 PM #23
I would either run the same but up the dose or you could swap the dbol for drol, I wouldnt run deca yet with those results, i would swap up your diet and change dosages or change the oral as ive stated above.
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05-13-2009, 12:40 PM #24
Well I wasn't 100% on my test cyp. I know for a fact the dbol was real, but the test was bunk IMO.
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05-13-2009, 12:44 PM #25
^ Most likely.
Or severly underdosed.
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05-13-2009, 12:45 PM #26
I agree, you should have gained more than 10lbs on your first cycle especially with a dbol kickstart. Most people gain around 15-20lbs on their first cycle which is test only.
How was your diet?
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05-13-2009, 12:46 PM #27
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