Views on Tbol/Var combo?

[azz10]

Any views on Tbol/Var combo for 6weeks cycle? I've done tbol only and var only cycles independently. Just wondering what sort of results will combining both produce. Do they complement each other? Any feedbacks will be awesome. Cheers.

[kdizzog]

I personally would not do it. Seems like of would be bad on the liver. What dose would you run of each?

[azz10]

i've done 60-80mg ed for 6 weeks on either of them independently. I'm not sure what's a good dose if i combine them. maybe lower the dose and up liver protectant?

[ganu]

me already on a similar cycle thanks to big

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ultimate+stack

[Big]

Ahh, the Ross Cocktail lol. Tbol/var is actually a nice cycle for what it is.

[azz10]

i cant access the link. what's the cycle look like?

[yoyoma1]

what were your results on tbol only, and on var only? what type of pct did you do? thanks

[azz10]

tbol- increased strength, slight vascularity, increased LBM

var- increased strength, higher vascularity, decreased mid-section 'fatness'

No sides from either. No PCT after Tbol (everything seems ok)
PCT for Var- nolva 40/20/20 ed for 3 weeks

[shadow21]

i was looking to do this cycle as well.
how much are you taking per week?

[WARMachine]

^ Both require a PCT.

And used together, definitaly need a PCT.

[azz10]

i was looking to do this cycle as well.
how much are you taking per week?

I'm still trying to get as much feedbacks from people who has done the same cycle before to work out the dose.

Maybe 30-40mg/var and 40-50mg/tbol ed for 6 weeks?

[azz10]

^ Both require a PCT.

And used together, definitaly need a PCT.

Any feedbacks about the does for this combo?
PCT at 40/20/20 for Nolva?

[milkoman16]

Azz10 - just started a T-bol only cycle & seen your thread. What kinda gains did you achieve using the T-bol only cycle? Was also curious as to what PCT is recommended. Hoping for some solid advice on this thread.

[wants2Bhuge]

would this be a good cycle for a first timer

[ganu]

any feedbacks about the does for this combo?
Pct at 40/20/20 for nolva?

not more than 90 mg per day together..nolva 20 and clomid 50-2weeks

[azz10]

Azz10 - just started a T-bol only cycle & seen your thread. What kinda gains did you achieve using the T-bol only cycle? Was also curious as to what PCT is recommended. Hoping for some solid advice on this thread.

I reckon the gains vary amongst individuals not forgetting factors like types of training, diet and goals. I'm a sprinter, so my goals have alwaiz been LBM, strength and speedy recovery. Reckon i've gained 2-3kgs, but strength has gone up by about 10% and speed of recovery between trainings was awesome. My gains aint as significant as most others as I've tried to maintain the same body weight whilst upping the max. strength.

I reckon if you eat and train like a bodybuilder, u'll see good gains and vascularity with tbol only cycle. PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20 ed for the respective 4 weeks will be sufficient.

[azz10]

would this be a good cycle for a first timer

depending on your goals. Everyone will say to inclu. test.

this is definately not a bulk cycle.

[azz10]

thanxs for the info ganu. is there a certain dose percentage between var and tbol. As in, does a specific one has to be higher than the other?

[ganu]

thanxs for the info ganu. is there a certain dose percentage between var and tbol. As in, does a specific one has to be higher than the other?

following this one by pump a holic

Turinabol + Anavar ULTIMATE STACK!!
________________________________________
I have run Oral-Turinabol by ITSELF for a duration of 7 weeks at 40-60mgs and gained almost 15lbs, with a mild but appreciable strength increase, and INSANE vascularity--even moreso than var--which I have also run solo. I am currently STACKING the TWO.....

TBOL increases LIBIDO and APPETITIE, whereas VAR DECREASES BOTH. Ergo, TBOL dose is Maintained higher than the VAR dose throughout the cycle to counteract these sides.

I am currently running a LOW dose TBOL/VAR STACK: I will NOT be increasing calories until week 4, as this is not a SUPER BULK. I am currrently 200lbs, 9% BF, and I want to be at 200-205, 5%BF. Looking to get into semi-contest shape, although i will not be competeing.

The liver should function healthily, as my total 17AA intake doesn't ever exceed 90mgs ED--and that is at its HIGHEST POINT. Of ocurse, use liver protectants like Liv52 and Milk thristle.

Week1: VAR 20mgs/TBOL 30mgs ***Extremely LOW dose to ASSESS contraindications***
Week2: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 40mgs *VAR Never EXCEEDS 30mgs, due to it's negative affect on LIBIDO.
Week3: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 50mgs
Week4: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 60mgs
Week5: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 60mgs
Week6: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 50mgs
Week7: VAR 30mgs
Week8: VAR 30mgs

I am currently in day 11.
The purpose of VAR in this cycle is strictly for Strength, hardness, and vascularity. Any contribution that VAR makes to my LBM gains will be accepted, but not expected. TBOL is the BASE of the stack. It increases Libido, Appetite, mood, and FREE test levels. (kind of like taking an oral form of test that doesn't aromatize or alpha-5 reduce!) It is also teh ANABOLIC component--it is the muscle builder. However, I also expect it to produce remarkable synergy with the VAR, producing a VERY dense, lean, shredded look.
I ONLY USE Tribestan Tribulus Terrestris extract (or TRIBEX) and A POTENT Eurycoma Longfolia(Tongkat ALi) Extract for PCT and I have reovered SWIFTLY BOTH times. These are both NON-Aromatizing steroids , one reason why HPTA function can be mostly maintained even during
cycle.

[yoyoma1]

keep us updated on your success/ results/ sides... thanks

[azz10]

no worries yoyoma1. i'll update u guys.
wish me luck. haha :P

[azz10]

Has anyone include clen in this cycle before? Was thinking if I should include clen during the cycle or during PCT. feedbacks?

[molecule]

I suggest during the PCT.

[azz10]

I suggest during the PCT.

thanxs mate. so clen with PCT like nolva or clomid is all good?

[killagorilla187]

following this one by pump a holic

Turinabol + Anavar ULTIMATE STACK!!
________________________________________
I have run Oral-Turinabol by ITSELF for a duration of 7 weeks at 40-60mgs and gained almost 15lbs, with a mild but appreciable strength increase, and INSANE vascularity--even moreso than var--which I have also run solo. I am currently STACKING the TWO.....

TBOL increases LIBIDO and APPETITIE, whereas VAR DECREASES BOTH. Ergo, TBOL dose is Maintained higher than the VAR dose throughout the cycle to counteract these sides.

I am currently running a LOW dose TBOL/VAR STACK: I will NOT be increasing calories until week 4, as this is not a SUPER BULK. I am currrently 200lbs, 9% BF, and I want to be at 200-205, 5%BF. Looking to get into semi-contest shape, although i will not be competeing.

The liver should function healthily, as my total 17AA intake doesn't ever exceed 90mgs ED--and that is at its HIGHEST POINT. Of ocurse, use liver protectants like Liv52 and Milk thristle.

Week1: VAR 20mgs/TBOL 30mgs ***Extremely LOW dose to ASSESS contraindications***
Week2: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 40mgs *VAR Never EXCEEDS 30mgs, due to it's negative affect on LIBIDO.
Week3: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 50mgs
Week4: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 60mgs
Week5: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 60mgs
Week6: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 50mgs
Week7: VAR 30mgs
Week8: VAR 30mgs

I am currently in day 11.
The purpose of VAR in this cycle is strictly for Strength, hardness, and vascularity. Any contribution that VAR makes to my LBM gains will be accepted, but not expected. TBOL is the BASE of the stack. It increases Libido, Appetite, mood, and FREE test levels. (kind of like taking an oral form of test that doesn't aromatize or alpha-5 reduce!) It is also teh ANABOLIC component--it is the muscle builder. However, I also expect it to produce remarkable synergy with the VAR, producing a VERY dense, lean, shredded look.
I ONLY USE Tribestan Tribulus Terrestris extract (or TRIBEX) and A POTENT Eurycoma Longfolia(Tongkat ALi) Extract for PCT and I have reovered SWIFTLY BOTH times. These are both NON-Aromatizing steroids , one reason why HPTA function can be mostly maintained even during
cycle.

Thats a very interesting post, i would think you need to take nolva or clomid for a pct.

I am going to be testing out t-bol soon and your post made me excited. I think im going to stack it with test prop, i might even through anavar or winstrol in the mix. This will be a cutting cycle.

[azz10]

killergorilla187... yeh, definately nolva or clomid for PCT..

reckon u've got an awesome cutting cycle planned over there.. would luv to hear your progress mate..

[killagorilla187]

killergorilla187... yeh, definately nolva or clomid for PCT..

reckon u've got an awesome cutting cycle planned over there.. would luv to hear your progress mate..

Thanks, once I start, I might make a log.

[Wes201]

hey guys, im new at this. can anyone help me understand why i would need nolva for pct if they are both non aromatising??

[austinite]

hey guys, im new at this. can anyone help me understand why i would need nolva for pct if they are both non aromatising??

Welcome. Start a new thread, no need to bump a 3 year old thread.

[Wes201]

hey, was hoping you could help me out. im curious why i need a pct if they are both non aromatising????

[Wes201]

ill give it a shot, thanks

[Atomini]

This is a nearly 4 year old thread. Start a new one and let this one die.