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    3rd cycle..need some comments..

    oki now im gonna be doing a short cutting cycle for 8 weeks..tht includes test prop,tren and winny

    1-8 test prop 400mg/week (eod splited)
    1-8 tren A 300-400mg/week (eod)
    1-8 winny 200 -300mg/week(eod)

    im thinking of throwing in some proviron as well..50mg/day..any comments on this?
    im gonna run nolva 10mg everyday..for the whole 8 weeks to help prevent any sides..

    PCT will be
    nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/50

    Now should i throw in some hcg ..around 5000 ius..spread them around the last 2-3 weeks of the cycle..or its not necessary?

    and abt nolva and pct i heard that nolva Tamoxifen is generally well-tolerated, but occasionally causes side effects including hot flashes, decreased libido, and erectile dysfunction..and i did experience the libido disfunction when i was on nolva..after my deca and test cycle..now i did a mistake and i didnt stop the deca a week or 2 b4 the test..but..after i finished i extended my pct for 5 weeks..like it was recommended from some of the guys here..and still..i had to wait like 2 months..took gensiengs,vitamins..and all kinds of food tht will help woody get back in shape..and im oki now..but i would not want to go get tht again!

    So the question is..Is ther a replacement for nolva?

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    I'd start the winny week 5 and run it to week 10. Take the prop up to the 10th week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrathchild212 View Post
    oki now im gonna be doing a short cutting cycle for 8 weeks..tht includes test prop,tren and winny

    1-8 test prop 400mg/week (eod splited)
    1-8 tren A 300-400mg/week (eod)
    1-8 winny 200 -300mg/week(eod)

    im thinking of throwing in some proviron as well..50mg/day..any comments on this?
    im gonna run nolva 10mg everyday..for the whole 8 weeks to help prevent any sides..

    PCT will be
    nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/50

    Now should i throw in some hcg ..around 5000 ius..spread them around the last 2-3 weeks of the cycle..or its not necessary?

    and abt nolva and pct i heard that nolva Tamoxifen is generally well-tolerated, but occasionally causes side effects including hot flashes, decreased libido, and erectile dysfunction..and i did experience the libido disfunction when i was on nolva..after my deca and test cycle..now i did a mistake and i didnt stop the deca a week or 2 b4 the test..but..after i finished i extended my pct for 5 weeks..like it was recommended from some of the guys here..and still..i had to wait like 2 months..took gensiengs,vitamins..and all kinds of food tht will help woody get back in shape..and im oki now..but i would not want to go get tht again!

    So the question is..Is ther a replacement for nolva?
    The combination of drugs is a good one, love that stack!

    I think the deca supression could of been the problem last time when you use nolva, i would stick with it and see how you go with this stack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    The combination of drugs is a good one, love that stack!

    I think the deca supression could of been the problem last time when you use nolva, i would stick with it and see how you go with this stack.
    i agree, but you could add aromasin to the pct if you like to beef it up a little, not needed per say but a good addition none the less

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    Take your Prop at least one week longer than your Tren .

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    thnx for the feedback guys..ill see how it goes..jst afraid my woody wouldnt work properly..but ill search abt aromasin and chek it out..

    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    Take your Prop at least one week longer than your Tren.
    y is that dude? is it to avoid the libido effects?

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    should i run the hcg ..or is it no need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrathchild212 View Post
    thnx for the feedback guys..ill see how it goes..jst afraid my woody wouldnt work properly..but ill search abt aromasin and chek it out..



    y is that dude? is it to avoid the libido effects?
    Partly I would stop the tren a few days (3) before the Test. This helps clear out the tren out and will make the PCT easier. Then 2-3 days after stoppin test. start PCT.

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