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    please would like an opinon

    500mgs of sustanon or 250 sustanon 250 of testaviron
    have both 10 and 10
    wondering if its better to use 500mg of one or use one of each
    also using 50 mg of winstral

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    how about some stats

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    welll...sust has to be shot eod or ed and testiviron(test enanthate /prop blend) needs to be shot eod or ed

    doesn't really matter as i don't like either of them from a chemistry point of view

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    6ft 210 7yrs traning 2nd cycle ,dont dnow exact bf but lean
    diet and traning exp good ,just hit a wall cant get over 205-210
    3500 calorie intake 7 meals

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    every day or every other day? thats not exessive?

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    sust had a blend of esters// one of them is fast...prpwhich need to be shot frequently.. so that being said u can do it eod.. and doing them both at the same time dont bother.. its one or the other... personally to keep it simple iwuld jsut go get some enanthate .. and run that plain and simple.. but if you only can use what u got use the sust.. but................. u want to total about 500 a week so shooting eod would only take u to 5 weeks so your short..

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    ^ Good advce as usual brutha!

    Quote Originally Posted by jim4620 View Post
    6ft 210 7yrs traning 2nd cycle ,dont dnow exact bf but lean
    diet and traning exp good ,just hit a wall cant get over 205-210
    3500 calorie intake 7 meals
    Age? BF guesstimate?

    Whats the diet look like?

    Post it up. Inclue the weight of the food and macros if you have them.

    Just everything youd eat in a regular day.

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    thanks warmachine

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    ok use the sus than the testaviron? problem is both 250mg eod would equel a lot more than 500mg i will re up in three weeks ,took this in a pinch/10 sus250 10 testaviron250 50 winnys

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    i didnt mean take 1ml eod.. split the dose up so that u get around 500 for that week total

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    35 bodyfat ?have abs by not shreaded but defined and lean
    meal 1 /50g protein shake
    meal2 /6 egg whites cup of oatmeal
    meal 3 2 chicken breasts cup of broc
    meal 4 50g protien shake
    meal 5 2 cans of tuna cup of rice
    meal 6 grilled chicken or steak salad
    meal 7 50 protein shake
    also incorparate flax oil when my stomach allows

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    sorry didnt understand cant split there 1 ml amps

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim4620 View Post
    35 bodyfat ?have abs by not shreaded but defined and lean
    meal 1 /50g protein shake
    meal2 /6 egg whites cup of oatmeal
    meal 3 2 chicken breasts cup of broc
    meal 4 50g protien shake
    meal 5 2 cans of tuna cup of rice
    meal 6 grilled chicken or steak salad
    meal 7 50 protein shake
    also incorparate flax oil when my stomach allows

    yes you can split the one ml amp.... load the syringe with it and change out the needles.. keep it clean.....

    macros- need protein carb fat and calorie content of each thing

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    ^ Then put them all into a sterile vial.

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    thank you ,also made a mistake the testaviron is only enathate any way of incorparating
    with the sus or just hold on to it have 10 250 mg amps

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    those are both test.. u do one or the other.. its like doing oral winni and inject at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim4620 View Post
    35 bodyfat ?have abs by not shreaded but defined and lean
    meal 1 /50g protein shake
    meal2 /6 egg whites cup of oatmeal
    meal 3 2 chicken breasts cup of broc
    meal 4 50g protien shake
    meal 5 2 cans of tuna cup of rice
    meal 6 grilled chicken or steak salad
    meal 7 50 protein shake
    also incorparate flax oil when my stomach allows
    That diet needs some help.

    Ive seen worse, but still could use a going over.

    Too many shakes for 1...

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    i know, have a hard time preparing work a lot hours,any sugestions on the diet.
    thanks for your advise

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim4620 View Post
    35 bodyfat ?have abs by not shreaded but defined and lean
    meal 1 /50g protein shake
    Drop the shake.
    meal2 /6 egg whites cup of oatmeal
    Add a few more egg whites. And you should get about 80Grams of dry Oats.

    meal 3 2 chicken breasts cup of broc
    Add 4oz of mixed veggies instead of just broc. About 6oz of chicken is good.
    add a tbl of oilve oil


    meal 4 50g protien shake

    PWO Shakes are fine, but thats it.

    meal 5 2 cans of tuna cup of rice
    Brown rice? 4oz or so. And make it about 6oz of Tuna.

    Add a meal here. Something like 6 oz of lean meat. Turkey, chicken, or Beef. 6oz of Sweet Potato.

    meal 6 grilled chicken or steak salad
    Salad for dinner? Thats it? Lol...

    8oz of Steak/Chicken/Fish
    6oz of Sweet Potato/Yams or Brn Rice
    150Gs of Berries
    4oz of Mixed Veggies
    And a small dinner salad w/ a tbl of olive oil.


    meal 7 50 protein shake

    Replace with Casin Shake or Cottage Cheese. Some kinda slow release protein.



    also incorparate flax oil when my stomach allows
    BOLDS.


    Some of the diet experts like Phate can tweak it from there depending on you goals and whatnot.

    But thats a good starting point

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    Thank you ,i will give it a tryi really appriciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post
    BOLDS.


    Some of the diet experts like Phate can tweak it from there depending on you goals and whatnot.

    But thats a good starting point
    yeah, come on down to the diet forum and we'll help you out

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    k thanks was able to pick up 200 deca
    500mg a week?
    500mg sus a week
    50mg daily winstral
    Last edited by jim4620; 05-16-2009 at 10:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim4620 View Post
    k thanks was able to pick up qv 200 deca
    500mg a week?
    500mg sus a week
    50mg daily winstral
    edit out the lab name

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