stacking PH/DS with test

[toneloc85]

i have read that stacking PH's is pointless,but cant seem to figure out why. if you take spawn it is epistane and tren which are steriods,maybe not as potent as real tren but if you couldnt get real tren wouldnt it be the next best thing to add to your test cycle?

so is there anyone who has experience with stacking ph's with injectables that can give me some good stacks?

i was thinking week 1-10 200mg test e3d
1-4 Havoc
6-10 spawn or h-drol
if this is stupid please let me know. thanks.

[busaboy27]

start with some stats

age
weight
height
body fat
cycle experience
lift experience
you goal
diet

[richtries]

currently on 500 test per week with superdrol kick start

[toneloc85]

23
196
5"10
9-10% visible 6
4 week sdrol/5 week havoc/ 12 week test cyp
been lifting 2 1/2 years very dedicated
this will be a lean bulk for this winter as last winter i put on a lil too much fat got to around 17% at 214lbs
diet i now i am cycling carbs,then will be 7 meals per day,3 of which will contain carbs equaling about 1 1/2 times my bodyweight,except on leg days which i will increase carbs. obviosly eating 2 times bodyweight in protein. good fats,fish,nuts,flax ect..

[toneloc85]

currently on 500 test per week with superdrol kick start

i felt very unhealthy on SD but thanks.

[Immortal Soldier]

i have read that stacking PH's is pointless,but cant seem to figure out why. if you take spawn it is epistane and tren which are steriods,maybe not as potent as real tren but if you couldnt get real tren wouldnt it be the next best thing to add to your test cycle?

so is there anyone who has experience with stacking ph's with injectables that can give me some good stacks?

i was thinking week 1-10 200mg test e3d
1-4 Havoc
6-10 spawn or h-drol
if this is stupid please let me know. thanks.

Spawn is not "real tren" its something else, real oral tren is methyltren and its measured in micrograms and not mgs. So I have yet to see a product that uses "Real" oral tren (probably because its illegal), most say its contains but it doesn't rather a metabolite of tren or something.

The only thing I know that uses a tren analogue and is legal is 1-Tren (which is a cream and applied transdermal)

[busaboy27]

23
196
5"10
9-10% visible 6
4 week sdrol/5 week havoc/ 12 week test cyp
been lifting 2 1/2 years very dedicated
this will be a lean bulk for this winter as last winter i put on a lil too much fat got to around 17% at 214lbs
diet i now i am cycling carbs,then will be 7 meals per day,3 of which will contain carbs equaling about 1 1/2 times my bodyweight,except on leg days which i will increase carbs. obviosly eating 2 times bodyweight in protein. good fats,fish,nuts,flax ect..

that was the first time someone replied and gave all the details asked without a problem + ... hahaha

[toneloc85]

Spawn is not "real tren" its something else, real oral tren is methyltren and its measured in micrograms and not mgs. So I have yet to see a product that uses "Real" oral tren (probably because its illegal), most say its contains but it doesn't rather a metabolite of tren or something.

The only thing I know that uses a tren analogue and is legal is 1-Tren

huh didnt know that. i have seen 1-tren, would you consider that more toxic than oral tren?

[toneloc85]

that was the first time someone replied and gave all the details asked without a problem + ... hahaha

lol yea i knew the question was a coming,but its gotta be asked. so any good advice on the subject at hand?

[alpmaster]

Um, seeing as how you can get tren legally, I don't understand how you'd have a problem getting it...

[Immortal Soldier]

huh didnt know that. i have seen 1-tren, would you consider that more toxic than oral tren?

No, oral tren (Methyltrienolone) is alot more toxic on the body (even though average dosage is 500mcg-1mg a day) than 1-tren. 1-tren its not actual tren but rather an analogue of it, pretty potent and heard alot of good things about it, kind of expensive (80-140 bucks for a 6 week cycle) compared to oral tren which is like 15-20 bucks for a 4 week kickstart.

Um, seeing as how you can get tren legally, I don't understand how you'd have a problem getting it...

Getting cow pellets and homebrewing tren is not everyone's forte. Not to mention getting caught would result in a felony charge of attempt to distrubute anabolic steroids.

[toneloc85]

No, oral tren (Methyltrienolone) is alot more toxic on the body (even though average dosage is 500mcg-1mg a day) than 1-tren. 1-tren its not actual tren but rather an analogue of it, pretty potent and heard alot of good things about it, kind of expensive (80-140 bucks for a 6 week cycle) compared to oral tren which is like 15-20 bucks for a 4 week kickstart.



Getting cow pellets and homebrewing tren is not everyone's forte. Not to mention getting caught would result in a felony charge of attempt to distrubute anabolic steroids.

great i appreciate the help,think i am gonna read a little on 1-tren and see what my "friend " can come up with. great help, hope i have great sucess.

[oak2429]

havoc is epidrol and epidrol is in spawn so u want to run epidrol for 10 weeks?