injection problems

**lca** · 05-15-2009, 05:12 AM

posting on behalf of my friend
he started a test p cycle 100mg eod

on Saturday 9th of may was his first shot in the delt every thing was fine

on the sunday his left delt was sour like a dead arm

Monday was his right glute No problems {delt still sour}

Tuesday His left delt came out in a rash {described as if it was a heat rash little bit itch} started i with a cold {runny nose bit of a cough}

Wed Right Thigh injection no problems no pain till next morning

Thurs right thigh Can bend his knee and is Difficult to walk {feels like a dead leg bit tender to touch no brusing or swelling}

Friday Left glute No problems {right Leg still sour }

the pins he used are
23g 1in half = glute
23g 1in = delt
23g 1in = thigh
after reading some post he is going to the needle exhange to get some 25g

So now for the questions

1] Will the injection get a less painful [there no pain at the time of injection it just a day later only on the delts and thigh}

2} Been reading about mixing with grapeseed oil does this help if so is it a special injectable

3}also looked up test flu if the cold is tet flu how long roughly before it gone?

Need advise as injection into the thigh and delts are causing problem with work he is a bin man and does a lot of walking throughout the day thanks

**amateur88** · 05-15-2009, 05:16 AM

i jab in my thighs and never really have any pain except very minor acheing a few days later. i use 23g pins to. people do say use 25g pins as they cause less pain etc. but this is personal preference.

**TITANIUM** · 05-15-2009, 05:56 AM

I use 20-G to draw and to inject.Upper glutes.No pain at all.Watch out for the nerve that runs up the middle of your glutes.If you hit that, then you'll know it.Wipe down the injection site with alchol. Keep it very clean.And use 1 1/2 length needle in your glutes.Your ass is a tough.It can take it no problem.Then if you do get a rash or bruise, it's on your ass where know one can see it.Good luck Titanium

**CHAP** · 05-15-2009, 06:07 AM

stick with a 22 or 23 gauge 20g is crazy but to each his own. and use a 11/2 in on glutes also the prop can be painful that is just normal

**Hunter-S-Thompson** · 05-15-2009, 06:09 AM

I don't know from personal experience, but maybe try changing the dose to 50mg ED... it might help out the soreness b/c your not shooting as much at once

**Dont wanna be old** · 05-15-2009, 08:55 AM

A couple things to double check .
Make sure he is using medical alcohol .
Push out a little make sure needle is lubricated .
50mg ED maybe help, if you miss a day , catch up when injecting the glutes .
Did he wipe top of vial with alcohol ?

**lca** · 05-15-2009, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by dontwannabold

A couple things to double check .
Make sure he is using medical alcohol .
Push out a little make sure needle is lubricated .
50mg ED maybe help, if you miss a day , catch up when injecting the glutes .
Did he wipe top of vial with alcohol ?

he is using medical alcohol wipes and lubricating the needle
also heats the oil and wipes the vial

**chuckt12345** · 05-15-2009, 09:09 AM

from what i been gettin the past 3 wks,, prop in my quads kills me but im able to switch glutes eod without any problems

**amateur88** · 05-15-2009, 09:12 AM

hmmm, strange one then, might be a reaction to the oil its mixed with??

**RANA** · 05-15-2009, 09:16 AM

I am currently using prop and Tren , I will not use prop on my quads again. As for delts it depends on the size of his shoulder but he should draw with an 18g and inject it with an 25g 5/8"
Plus he should try 50mg ED.
Plus plus have his ass come on here so we don't have to use a 3rd person.
as for prop it's painful
Is this his 1st cycle?

**lca** · 05-15-2009, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by RANA

Plus plus have his ass come on here so we don't have to use a 3rd person. good advice i wish he would but he dosnt have access to the internet

as for prop it's painful
Is this his 1st cycle?

this is not his first cycle just the first time hes had so many problem after injections but on doing the research it all said prop is painful he didnt expect it woukd effect his work

thanks for all the advice and support

**(1*)** · 05-15-2009, 11:01 AM

going to a smaller pin could cause more pain as it will take longer to inject and have more movement in the muscle. go a little bigger as stated above.

**Friend** · 05-15-2009, 05:25 PM

Tell your buddy not to stress, it does get better. I'm coming to the end of a prop cycle and i barely get any injection pain at all from it now. Though, the first few weeks were hell.

**lca** · 05-18-2009, 08:33 AM

how long long should prop take to kick in starting his second week today

***D7M*** · 05-18-2009, 08:54 AM

^should be kicking in about now if it hasn't already.

**amateur88** · 05-18-2009, 02:57 PM

yea prop is pretty quick to kick in tbh, should be seeing it soon!

**Bojangles69** · 06-19-2009, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by (1*)

going to a smaller pin could cause more pain as it will take longer to inject and have more movement in the muscle. go a little bigger as stated above.

Can you explain why?

Thats just not making sense to me. The chemicals cause the intensity of the pain, not "movement in the muscle".

When you sit, stand, drive or walk, or do anything, you're creating "movement in the muscle" and wayyyyyyy more movement then a "long injection". (if in fact it even moves the muscle at all)

You could inject for 45mins it wouldnt make a difference.