Test/Tren need your imput please

[justinf70]

Hello, I am new to this site. I am starting a cycle soon and would like your imput on this upcoming cycle. I have read several hundred threads and amazed by the knowledge on this site, I guess I don't know as much as I thought?!?!

I have 14 years lifting experience, weights 5 times per week, Cardio 5 times per week. My diet is very clean, consume between 3000 - 3500 calories per day.

My Stats:
Age: 31
Weight: 220
Height: 6'1
Body Fat: 14%


I have previously done 3 cycles in my lifetime, the last one being about 4 years ago. I am not looking to "blow up", im looking at gaining modest lean muscle mass which is why i'm not going to over do it with the gear that I plan to use. I will also be using Tren for the first time. Do YOU feel this cycle will give me that?

Test Enth - weeks 1-10 350mgs/week
Tren Enan - weeks 1-10 300mgs/week

I may introduce Winny Tabs in week six thru week 12, yet undecided at this time.
I have a PCT with nolva and clomid in which I plan on running weeks 11-14.

Thanks for your imput

[Matt]

I would stick with just the test, maybe some dbol. Your pct should stert 2 weeks after your last shot of test and i would run the test for at least 12 weeks..

[*RAGE*]

If you want to run the tren I would stop it two week before you stop the test, also would get an AI for gyno and bloating but use only if needed...also if you are going to run the tren I would up the test to 500mg a week and break each down to two shots a week monday morning and thrusday night. and what mad matt said covers it

[sigman roid]

although you have done cycles in the past because of the length of time since your last i would leave tren alone maybe do a simple test cycle to get you back in to it and think about tren maybe for the next.jmo

[*RAGE*]

On your pct if you do run the tren I would run the

clomid at 100mg ed for two weeks then drop it down to 50mg ed for the last two weeks

nolva at 40mg ed for two weeks and then drop it down to 20mg ed.....the last two weeks

I like to take the clomid at night and the nolva in the morning helps with sides IMO

[*RAGE*]

Shit three post in one thread sorry but if you diet is clean you should not be at 14% bf, I would also post your diet if the diet forum we have the best in the world or anywhere on the net to get that in shape for your cycle...Now I think that does it...good luck

[RANA]

If you want to run the tren I would stop it two week before you stop the test, also would get an AI for gyno and bloating but use only if needed...also if you are going to run the tren I would up the test to 500mg a week and break each down to two shots a week monday morning and thrusday night. and what mad matt said covers it

I agree^^^^
As for your dosage I would go with at least 500mg of tren, Tren will give you that hard look, lean muscle mass. If your going to run tren get what you can out of it, more so the tren then the test. Hope that makes sense.
And this is only if your are going to run tren/test

[busaboy27]

u can forget about that cardio if u start that tren......

[RANA]

u can forget about that cardio if u start that tren......

I have not had too many issues with cardio. The sides haven't really effected me. Only issues I have had is lack of sleep (taking melitonin and it helps) wierd ass dreams (more than usual), my sex drive is up but my erections are not as hard so I started caber last night to see how that works. Extra sweating but not too crazy, I feel a bit more aggressive, not angry but aggressive.

Since this is the 1st time I have used Tren I wanted to see how it would effect me, that's why I didn't start caber at the beginning of my cycle because I know numerous individuals that don't use it.

[busaboy27]

ya.. i get the same dreams everytime i take it.. always green goblins...

[inky-e]

u can forget about that cardio if u start that tren......

Agree to a point......it limits my endurance thats for sure....I even got winded during sex...

[RANA]

Agree to a point......it limits my endurance thats for sure....I even got winded during sex...

Image if you had a partner during sex...lol

[justinf70]

Busaboy27 - You have said "u can forget about that cardio if u start that tren...... " Why is that, would it be from lack of endurance, and if so could you take efferdrine before cardio? And would it help?

Thank You for all your input!! I'm glad I stumbled across this site

[RANA]

Busaboy27 - You have said "u can forget about that cardio if u start that tren...... " Why is that, would it be from lack of endurance, and if so could you take efferdrine before cardio? And would it help?

Thank You for all your input!! I'm glad I stumbled across this site

Issues catching your breath.

[laduem88]

it shouldent affect low intensity cardio

[busaboy27]

hacking away at a girl and i got to take breaks.. like im literally gonna stop breathing.

maybe i should chill with the rapid fire..