Need help and advice from experienced steroid users

[trendkllr101]

hey guys i have never done steroids before but i have been doing LOTS of research so im fairly educated on the topic but some thing u only learn from experience.

i dont work out much any more and because of personal problems causing much emotional stress i have gained weight i way about 250 and a good bit of it is fat. i have the body structure of arnold (especially chest and shoulder wise) i guess the best way to describe it would be hefty. im just a big guy lol but i dont have like fat rolls or anything like that. well i am ****ing tired of looking in the mirror and knowing wat i "could'' look like. i gain mucsle extreemy fast one good hard chest routine will result in a visible change (small) but definitly visible.

so what i want to know is if i was to do a cutting cycle having a good amount of body fat would it result in burning it off. can i use certain steroids to burn 50 or 60 pounds of body fat

P.S. dont leave me replys saying just go on a diet cause i am doing weight watchers but i would like to speed things up if it will work i am going to it. but i will do more research before fully committing

[busaboy27]

plain and simple.. there is no steroid that burns fat.... clen and tren.... its not what you think...... getting cut does not mean burn fat.. when u hear that it means to lean out as in shed water weight and dry you out basically..

[Phate]

hey guys i have never done steroids before but i have been doing LOTS of research so im fairly educated on the topic but some thing u only learn from experience.

i dont work out much any more and because of personal problems causing much emotional stress i have gained weight i way about 250 and a good bit of it is fat. i have the body structure of arnold (especially chest and shoulder wise) i guess the best way to describe it would be hefty. im just a big guy lol but i dont have like fat rolls or anything like that. well i am ****ing tired of looking in the mirror and knowing wat i "could'' look like. i gain mucsle extreemy fast one good hard chest routine will result in a visible change (small) but definitly visible.

so what i want to know is if i was to do a cutting cycle having a good amount of body fat would it result in burning it off. can i use certain steroids to burn 50 or 60 pounds of body fat

P.S. dont leave me replys saying just go on a diet cause i am doing weight watchers but i would like to speed things up if it will work i am going to it. but i will do more research before fully committing

you need a proper diet, weight watchers isn't going to work for your goals

[busaboy27]

best bet.. like you said u dont want to hear..is... diet excercise by far... u can use clen.. and with high body fat you will get alot more sides cause of that..

[trendkllr101]

best bet.. like you said u dont want to hear..is... diet excercise by far... u can use clen.. and with high body fat you will get alot more sides cause of that..

wat do u mean "sides"

[*RAGE*]

Your best bet is to do 45 mins of cardio getting your heart rate up between 145 and 155 for 40 mins, next you need a good diet with a 40 percent coming from protein 40 percent complex carbs, and 20 percent of healthy fats broken into six to eight meals a day. You will drop the weight fast bro, and you body will love you for it.. good luck

[busaboy27]

wat do u mean "sides"

when you do a cycle of steroids your more prone to side effects.. cause of your body fat.... each person is different some people get very minimal sides but.. high body fat is a no no

[trendkllr101]

Your best bet is to do 45 mins of cardio getting your heart rate up between 145 and 155 for 40 mins, next you need a good diet with a 40 percent coming from protein 40 percent complex carbs, and 20 percent of healthy fats broken into six to eight meals a day. You will drop the weight fast bro, and you body will love you for it.. good luck

well to every one reading this if my only choice is dieting and excercise i WILL do it but i need help like wat to but what exactly to eat ect. and also doing a diet like that cant be cheap .....

[busaboy27]

get to the diet section and post in there and they will help you out alot

[*RAGE*]

well to every one reading this if my only choice is dieting and excercise i WILL do it but i need help like wat to but what exactly to eat ect. and also doing a diet like that cant be cheap .....

It is all in how you look at things bro, eggs, chicken, tuna, brown rice, all cheap and I like to cook for the week in one day so it is easy and have all my food on hand it also so helps you not cheat...because the food is right there. Phate know a shit load more about diet then I do so will leave that part to him but will give you a couple web site that can help you..

fitday.com
runnersworld.com

[Phate]

well to every one reading this if my only choice is dieting and excercise i WILL do it but i need help like wat to but what exactly to eat ect. and also doing a diet like that cant be cheap .....

it's not, the gear is the cheapest part of a cycle, the food is the main

[trendkllr101]

this is what i ment by somethings u only learn from experience. i could not get a straight answere online from research but i had a feeling this would be the case. like i know protien shakes would not be good cause that would just add weight and i knew steroids like dboll and winn would just **** my body up but i figure clen tren and t3 would burn the fat but i guess not

[jimmyinkedup]

well to every one reading this if my only choice is dieting and excercise i WILL do it but i need help like wat to but what exactly to eat ect. and also doing a diet like that cant be cheap .....

^^^ well neither is a cycle and your money at this point is best spent on proper nutrition - not wasted on a cycle IMO ....id post in the diet section ...you will get some great help form the likes of Phate and Jamy and others.....

[trendkllr101]

It is all in how you look at things bro, eggs, chicken, tuna, brown rice, all cheap and I like to cook for the week in one day so it is easy and have all my food on hand it also so helps you not cheat...because the food is right there. Phate know a shit load more about diet then I do so will leave that part to him but will give you a couple web site that can help you..

fitday.com
runnersworld.com

can you maybe go to into a little more depth on that

[*RAGE*]

can you maybe go to into a little more depth on that

What I am saying is egg a dozen under two dollars, a can of tuna 75 cent, chicken breat four for five dollars, brown rice a bag under three dollars, and so on and so of vegs are also cheap...I could write out a diet for you but phate and others know a lot more then me.....so will let them go with it...

[trendkllr101]

well i started a thread in the diet section so hopefully ill get the help i want and need

[*RAGE*]

well i started a thread in the diet section so hopefully ill get the help i want and need

give it time bro, it is sat....night and things are slow around here tonight but in time they will hook you up..thing will pick up tomorrow.....

[trendkllr101]

hell yea haha dam i got a good feeling about this lol

[Phate]

give it time bro, it is sat....night and things are slow around here tonight but in time they will hook you up..thing will pick up tomorrow.....

i'm heading over there

[lovbyts]

Why do people come in here and say they have read a lot, done research but then ask the most basic question that is asked 10x+ a day. OBVIOUSLY you did NOT read or do research or you question would have been answered and you never had to ask.

Yes I know he is new but when you come in lying it doesnt do anyone any good.

[trendkllr101]

man **** u dude if u used ur brain and actually read my statement i said fairly u ****ing dick u dont me or how much i might know and i dont know u or how much u know so shut the **** up u ****ing tool

[lovbyts]

Hahahaha I see you are another key board warrior also. With an attitude like that dont expect to be around here long.

I know plenty about you, you posted you have read a LOT but you fail to know the simple, most basic things like questions that are asked daily, many times a day so OBVIOUSLY you have done very little research.

BTW thanks for sharing and showing your EMOTIONAL problem here.
Go take your prosac
No go crawl back under your rock where you belong.

[trendkllr101]

ok dude if u say so and i know u ur the type of guy who makes an ass of him self at the gym and thinks he is the shit see ur the reason why people like me never try to seek help cause ass holes like u assume they know the person i have spent hours on end discover which steroids do what reading review after review and scientifcly seeing how they effect u i looked up thermogenics and all to see the best way to lose weight but know one has ever said if steroids will burn that amount of fat u ass

and maybe u should quit beeting off and realize that THIS IS PART OF MY RESEARCH TOO

and if u keep arguing with an 18 year old high school kid who just asked a simple question that he couldnt get answere reading online then thats just sad

[lovbyts]

Nope, you dont know anything about me and your assumptions are 100% wrong. I'm only pointing out what YOU said in your first post.

So you are an 18 yr old high school kid? OK that explains a lot hahahahahaha.

come back in another 10 years and ask your questions again AFTER you mature a little No wonder you have emotional issues. You probably dont even know which way to go yet. LOL

Now stop being suck and little prick and learn something from your elders. Even if it not what you want to hear most people (myself included) are here to help you. I am also learing daily even at my old age. LOL Most responses you are NOT going to like because of your age and immaturity. You are going to be stubborn and want to do what you want to do and wont listen to anyone else.

Instead of acting like a immature little school girl who got her feeling hurt you could have looked at my response and realized how your first post sounded retarted and like most of the other first posters except you are one of them coming in saying how much you read when in reality you must have read NOTHING here or very little or only advertisements thus far.

Stop being a little bitch, take your medicine and get back to learning or go away.

BTW, what wrong with beating off? Maybe you have guilty feeling about it because of the guys you are looking at? Maybe you should resolve those issues first? Prozac.....

[trendkllr101]

well u just proved how much of an ass u are grandpa and just so u know i joined this place today wat i dont understand is how u cant seem to reealize that i read on the steroids themselves on other legit websites in fact i want u to go and find RIGHT NOW and find where some one else has asked if using a cutting cycle and working out and all that will burn that large amount of fat fast !!!!!!! and i want to see 20 or 30 pounds typed in the question not simply " does tren or t3 or clen burn fat " or will injections work better then oral ........... have u seen how many forum and threads there are i decided ask my self in stead of wasting time clicking next a thousand times till i find "will anaver get rid of my beer belly" when u copy and paste that ill say u were right and im an immature kid but untill then keep getting older

[lovbyts]

OK baby I did some leg work for you since your gray matter is not mature enough on how to use the search feature. You have to read past the first post to find what you are looking for and no not all of them are talking about taking off as much lard as you are but some are.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hlight=cutting

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hlight=cutting

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hlight=cutting

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hlight=cutting

Now you still dont seem to get it though but if you read some of these you might. DIET is your best option but if you want to throw your money away, destroy your liver, stop what little sex drive you may have and lock your growth plates be my guest. I doubt you will ever make it to my age and I'm sure you wont without many bumps and bruises along the way.

PS, your still a little piss ant in a world of ant eaters so get used to getting stepped on with an attitude like yours. Remember PROZAC......

[trendkllr101]

wow man i was about to type in how retarded u were till i opened the last thread appreciate the find oh and btw next time dont be such a dick and just post that last response first then talk ur shit .............


and btw i actually do take prozac DICK lol

[*RAGE*]

wow this thread took a turn

[lovbyts]

wow man i was about to type in how retarded u were till i opened the last thread appreciate the find oh and btw next time dont be such a dick and just post that last response first then talk ur shit .............


and btw i actually do take prozac DICK lol

Double your dose, it's now working....
Think about it??? Why are you on prozac??? Because your a twit without it and obviously you still are even on it some times.

Read my past post, I dont have problems with people here but you already do. Maybe when someone like me says it's YOU and you are taking it WAY to harsh and dishing a little back at you then it's time for you to step back, look in the mirror and shut the f*ck up sometime? Like I said, there is a reason you are on Prozac so man up and stop blaming your life on everyone else. I just call them as i see them.

[jbm]

wow this thread took a turn

[trendkllr101]

yea accept for when it comes to u right lol oh and u really still didnt do wat i asked i never saw on any of them the question i asked u to find haha bro u might need to back to high school or start taking some fish oil and get that brain working right

[*RAGE*]

Double your dose, it's now working....
Think about it??? Why are you on prozac??? Because your a twit without it and obviously you still are even on it some times.

Read my past post, I dont have problems with people here but you already do. Maybe when someone like me says it's YOU and you are taking it WAY to harsh and dishing a little back at you then it's time for you to step back, look in the mirror and shut the f*ck up sometime? Like I said, there is a reason you are on Prozac so man up and stop blaming your life on everyone else. I just call them as i see them.

let it go, best to walk away sometimes......

its the internet...

[trendkllr101]

wow this thread took a turn

i know right i just asked a simple question and he has to act like such an ass idk i guess he gets off on trying to step on other people hell in one of his post he even said something about me being stepped on by people like him lol idk im just trying to get some help lol

[jbm]

man **** u dude if u used ur brain and actually read my statement i said fairly u ****ing dick u dont me or how much i might know and i dont know u or how much u know so shut the **** up u ****ing tool

You came here and ask for help....
Now you are flaming guys that are helping you?

What an attitude!

[lovbyts]

I'm not about to do ALL the leg work for you. In the post I put has most of the information or at least should lead you to the right answer. It's like being in math class and you only want to answer, not caring about the formula. keep reading and you might learn something. What i did not give you was on purpose.

Do you mean am I always right? No but you proved with your first response how you over react to lifes simple little bumps in the road or someone not giving you what you want with your immature outburst and accusations, also with your first post making false claims and getting upset when someone points it out.

I still go to school, I do take fish oil, Vit E, milk thistle, and MANY other natural supplements along with a good diet and my other goodies. No happy pills required.... That is what my 18-25 yr old girlfriends are for, to keep me happy

Why do you think taking supplements is a BAD thing like Fish oil? Even you should be taking it, maybe it would help your faulty wiring? I think about 99% of the members take some type of supplements and Fish oil being one of them.

Trust me, even though you are 18 you wont believe how fast it will all go by and you will be 40. If you dont get it straight now (mentally and physically) you either wont make it to 40 or life will just SUCK 100x worse than now.

[lovbyts]

let it go, best to walk away sometimes......

its the internet...

Good idea, I did enough work for him. At this point he can either sink or swim on his own.

[trendkllr101]

bro did u see wat he said first how is him saying Why do people come in here and say they have read a lot, done research but then ask the most basic question that is asked 10x+ a day. OBVIOUSLY you did NOT read or do research or you question would have been answered and you never had to ask.

Yes I know he is new but when you come in lying it doesnt do anyone any good.

helping me . and idk how he can call me a lyer just cause i asked a legit question that not many people have asked u know im not tryin to have an attitude for real i just have spent literally the past month studying up on different types of roids and which ones are better for wat and him calling me a lyer pissed me off if he had left that out i honestly wouldnt have said anything but from now on im just not gonna respond to dick heads that just come in and think "aww god dam another noob"

[jbm]

Ok! bro I understand... anyways! just have a thicker skin next time... lol!

[t-gunz]

^^^^^^^ funny thread guys.
let it go we are all here to help each other out

[trendkllr101]

^^^^^^^ funny thread guys.
let it go we are all here to help each other out

well some people dont know how to i gues lol but ur right this whole thing was stupid i just had a question lol wow this is the first forum i ever joined to lol