On friday I started a thread because I was experiencing alot of pain in my left quad that I had injectected with prop two days previous. I was hoping it was a reaction to the 'new to me' high ba propionate. It was swollen, hot to the touch and hurt like hell for me to use. Long story short, I finally went to the urgent care place and they lanced and drained the abcess that was not going to improve on its own. They were cool about it and gave me some antibiotics. They installed a drain, "or wick", which will be removed on teusday,that will continue to draw out the infection. The doc said, had I let it go another few days it woud've been hospital time. I have a picture that I'm trying to upload. Its yummy! Admittedly, I have used the same pin for 2 or 3 shots before replacing. Not really for the cost of the pin, but the small amount of gear left in the pin. Ive done it for years and if I collectively saved one 20 ml bottle worth of gear, guess what? I would gladly go pay for one and not had to go through this. So dont be a cheap ass, and always use sterile clean needles as I will from here on out.