Will fake gear give you side effects like real gear?

[Dobie-BOY]

I have never ran across this problem so I have never looked into it. My buddy swears his gear is no good, but he is getting all the sides like water retention, hair falling out, acne etc.. I dont see how it could, but he says he has read in a few different places where bunk gear can give you all the same sides. Doesnt make any sense to me?????

[johnnybigguns]

Doesn't make any sense to me either.
Maybe its underdosed

[got fina?]

In my opinion its a hard question to answer.

The problem is that if its really fake we dont know what it is.

Fake gear could be anything from totally fake (just oil), to something cheaper than the steroid it claims to be.
Ive seen fake primo that tested for Eq. So it wasnt totally fake gear, just fake Primo.

So again, the hardest part of fake gear is the fact that u have no clue what the hell it is.

If u feel its fake, i would definately stay the hell away from it.

Good luck....

[johnnybigguns]

Whats he running?

[Dobie-BOY]

Says hes runnin test and deca. Says he just threw in some tren also. he said he was runnin 750 mgs / week test. I dont know how much deca or tren.

[Dobie-BOY]

Doesn't make any sense to me either.
Maybe its underdosed

Ya, it could be that its underdosed. SEVERLY!! I told him to go get his blood levels checked. That would tell him for sure, about the test anyway.

[johnnybigguns]

test and deca are cheap to make I don't see it being faked as much as i do underdosed.
Is it UGL?

[(1*)]

how long has he been running it?

[Nicotine]

thing is, a steroid wont make up for crappy training or proper nutrition....

a guy in my gym ran the EXACT SAME GEAR - ordered from the same time, same source as what i got - i gained 16lbs in a 12 week run, he gained 4, and lost ALL of it when he came off (no pct....)

he even said during cycle

"i eat whatever i want..mcdonalds, etc... i dont need to diet, that's what the drugs are for"

how is his diet and training? is he doing arms and chest every day like a lot of people do? :P

[got fina?]

thing is, a steroid wont make up for crappy training or proper nutrition....

a guy in my gym ran the EXACT SAME GEAR - ordered from the same time, same source as what i got - i gained 16lbs in a 12 week run, he gained 4, and lost ALL of it when he came off (no pct....)

he even said during cycle

"i eat whatever i want..mcdonalds, etc... i dont need to diet, that's what the drugs are for"

how is his diet and training? is he doing arms and chest every day like a lot of people do? :P

LOL ive seen the same exact thing happen to sooo many people.

Ive gotten juice for a few friends that i thought was a bad idea to begin with.
I know just by talking to them before they start juicing if its gonna be a success or theyre gonna fail.
Sooooo many people think juice is turn them into a monster, and they could skip on the training and poroper eating.
Its no use u just have to let them learn from there own mistakes...

[PT]

why the hell is he injecting something into his body that he swears is fake? ut could be anything in that bottle