My biggest cycle ever, check it out/share your thoughts.

[DS21]

What's up guys,

I have a few questions for my upcoming cycle. First here are my stats:

5'10"
26 (will be 27 when I start this cycle)
235lb
14-15% BF
Training for over 8 years
Done 4 cycle, mainly test prop and tren ace, besides first one, Test only.
My goal is the same as always, a lean bulk. 240-245lbs and 10%BF.
If you need my diet just ask and I will provide it, but I am a really clean eater, almost exactly the samething everyday and at the same time. Besides Saturday nights, all you can eat sushi.

My planed cycle:

Wk 1-4- 2iu of HGH ed
Wk 5- 3iu of HGH ed
Wk 6-7 4iu of HGH ed
Wk 8-29- 5iu of HGH ed
Wk 8-29 70mg of Prop ed (490mg/wk)
Wk 8-29 .25mg l-dex eod
Wk 8-17 100mg of NPP ed
Wk 18-27 50-80mg of Tren ace ed (I like to start low and increase until I can't handle the sides usually 70 or 80mg ed)
Wk 28-31 1000ius of HCG /wk (500ius 2xwk)
Wk 30-35 20mg exemestane ed
Wk 30-35 60mg toremifene ed
Wk 30-52 4iu of HGH ed

Now for my questions:

Should I start with tren and then NPP, or keep it the way I have it. I've never used NPP, but would really like to try it. If there is something else that would be better to add here please let me know what you would use and why. I just have not want to run tren for more then 10 weeks.

HGH- This will be my first time using it and I've read a lot of ways to use it, first thing in the morning, mid day or before bed. The way I decided to use it is an hour after I consume my fist meal, usually oatmeal and egg whites or a protein shake. If you think there is a better way, please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks for any and all of your input on my upcoming cycle.

[Immortal Soldier]

So basically you are running HGH, Prop, NPP, and Tren ?

If you can handle NPP and Tren together than go for it.

[DS21]

I wouldn't actually run tren and npp at the same time, it would actually be 10 weeks of each. Then a six month off just running hgh for the full year.

[CHAP]

That is a biggie I need to make the kinda $$$$$$$$$$$$ your makin.


Good luck

[DS21]

Thanks a lot.

Anyone have any input in regards to my two questions?

Should I start with tren and then NPP, or keep it the way I have it. I've never used NPP, but would really like to try it. If there is something else that would be better to add here please let me know what you would use and why. I just have not want to run tren for more then 10 weeks.

HGH- This will be my first time using it and I've read a lot of ways to use it, first thing in the morning, mid day or before bed. The way I decided to use it is an hour after I consume my fist meal, usually oatmeal and egg whites or a protein shake. If you think there is a better way, please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks again!

[DS21]

Any help on those two questions?

[mx3]

definately start with the npp or will be dissapointed when your gains slow dramatically because you switched to a weaker compound. imo always start with weak compounds and end with stronger ones.

[wukillabee]

definately start with the npp or will be dissapointed when your gains slow dramatically because you switched to a weaker compound. imo always start with weak compounds and end with stronger ones.

I agree. Also, no orals at all? Hopefully some vets can chime in here for u to answer ut gh questions and maybe tweak the cycle to work better for u. I see the plan laid out just fine myself. I would just throw in oral or two somwhere in there depending on which orals work good for u.

[DS21]

definately start with the npp or will be dissapointed when your gains slow dramatically because you switched to a weaker compound. imo always start with weak compounds and end with stronger ones.

That makes a lot of sense. I will definetely go NPP then tren , Thanks!!

[DS21]

I agree. Also, no orals at all? Hopefully some vets can chime in here for u to answer ut gh questions and maybe tweak the cycle to work better for u. I see the plan laid out just fine myself. I would just throw in oral or two somwhere in there depending on which orals work good for u.

I really don't like orals, due to the lower back pain they give me. I also don't like to run too many compounds at once. I think the only time I would add an oral now a days is if I decided to use long esters as my kick start.

If any one has any suggestions on the HGH question above I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

[DS21]

I know someone out there can help out a little.

[Phate]

What's up guys,

I have a few questions for my upcoming cycle. First here are my stats:

5'10"
26 (will be 27 when I start this cycle)
235lb
14-15% BF
Training for over 8 years
Done 4 cycle, mainly test prop and tren ace, besides first one, Test only.
My goal is the same as always, a lean bulk. 240-245lbs and 10%BF.
If you need my diet just ask and I will provide it, but I am a really clean eater, almost exactly the samething everyday and at the same time. Besides Saturday nights, all you can eat sushi.

My planed cycle:

Wk 1-4- 2iu of HGH ed
Wk 5- 3iu of HGH ed
Wk 6-7 4iu of HGH ed
Wk 8-29- 5iu of HGH ed
Wk 8-29 70mg of Prop ed (490mg/wk)
Wk 8-29 .25mg l-dex eod
Wk 8-17 100mg of NPP ed
Wk 18-27 50-80mg of Tren ace ed (I like to start low and increase until I can't handle the sides usually 70 or 80mg ed)
Wk 28-31 1000ius of HCG /wk (500ius 2xwk)
Wk 30-35 20mg exemestane ed
Wk 30-35 60mg toremifene ed
Wk 30-52 4iu of HGH ed

Now for my questions:

Should I start with tren and then NPP, or keep it the way I have it. I've never used NPP, but would really like to try it. If there is something else that would be better to add here please let me know what you would use and why. I just have not want to run tren for more then 10 weeks.

HGH- This will be my first time using it and I've read a lot of ways to use it, first thing in the morning, mid day or before bed. The way I decided to use it is an hour after I consume my fist meal, usually oatmeal and egg whites or a protein shake. If you think there is a better way, please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks for any and all of your input on my upcoming cycle.

i like the cycle, as far as the hgh dosing, first thing in the morning is best, that way you don't interfere with you body's natural production during sleep

are you going to run blood work after pct to make sure you're good to go?

[DS21]

i like the cycle, as far as the hgh dosing, first thing in the morning is best, that way you don't interfere with you body's natural production during sleep

are you going to run blood work after pct to make sure you're good to go?

First off, thanks for the input!

I'm definetly going to start out by using the HGH first thing in the morning, but I keep reading (and will continue to research HGH useage) that injecting HGH can shut down your natural production for 24+ hours. And the best time to use it is right before bed, so you can still get your natural production, which occures an hour or two after you fall asleep. From what I read, after injecting HGH it will take affect about 4 hours after the injection.
Like I said, I will start with the am injections, and if I don't notice much; joint pain, better sleep, quicker recovery and fat loss with-in the first 8 weeks, then I will switch to before bed injections.

I will get my blood work done about 2 weeks after my pct is finshed. Is that the best time to get it done?

Thanks again,

[Phate]

First off, thanks for the input!

I'm definetly going to start out by using the HGH first thing in the morning, but I keep reading (and will continue to research HGH useage) that injecting HGH can shut down your natural production for 24+ hours. And the best time to use it is right before bed, so you can still get your natural production, which occures an hour or two after you fall asleep. From what I read, after injecting HGH it will take affect about 4 hours after the injection.
Like I said, I will start with the am injections, and if I don't notice much; joint pain, better sleep, quicker recovery and fat loss with-in the first 8 weeks, then I will switch to before bed injections.

I will get my blood work done about 2 weeks after my pct is finshed. Is that the best time to get it done?

Thanks again,

i'm not sure on your pct questions, it really depends on your body, but two weeks after pct would be a good time to check IMO